Posted on 10/12/2012 4:49:38 AM PDT by barryobi
After each debate I like to watch MSNBC Morning Joe to see how they try to spin things. Imagine my surprise when I tuned in a few minutes ago and saw Tom Brokaw trashing Biden's debate performance. Mika and the gang (including Joe) tried to use the 'We all know Joe personally, and he is a really nice guy' routine, but Brokaw was not biting. He said Biden was so off putting in his behavior that the undecided voters would not be moved towards Obama after watching the debate.
Everyone on the show agreed that both men passed the 'one heartbeat away' test that showed they were ready to be POTUS if something happened. That was where Palin (rightly or wrongly) was crucified by the MSM.
My own cheesehead opinion was that nobody really won the debate, but that Biden was the big time loser because his antics are all any casual viewer will take away. In my book, Biden telegraphed the growing panic in the Obama campaign. If they were not worried, Biden would not have acted so boorishly. If they felt they were ahead, he would have exhuded confidence rather than anger.
Maybe Biden could be POTUS, but after his performance last night, who would want him? It's been said many times that Biden is Obama's life insurance policy.
If Biden is Obamas life boat somebody needs to count all the holes Biden drilled into the hull lately.
If something were to happen to Obama, I could definitely see Bidden becoming another Lyndon Johnson.
As another freeper said..."he's the TED KNIGHT of American politics"!!!!
You must be thinking of that old Three Stooges film where Curly tries to fix a leaking boat by drilling more holes to let the water out!
I think only the true believers like Chris Matthews can be happy with Joe’s performance.
According to Yahho “love him or hate him, it was all Joe.” His smiling and antic were just to keep Ryan off his game
What I don’t understand, is how liberals said “Biden was just like Romney, why are you so upset?”
I pointed out Romney did not laugh rudely at Obama, or smirk at his answers, or act condescending. Chris Wallace, no fan of the right, even was appalled at the attitude of Biden.
Liberals think this was a big victory for Biden...I don’t believe it because women and undecideds will think “unpresidential” and all the focus groups on TV zeroed in on Biden’s unhinged diatribe.
Biden is not Obamas lfeboat, but more of an insurance policy.
Biden’s NICE Twin!!
I think you misunderstood what Fresh Wind meant by "life insurance policy".
What he/she meant was that no one wants Joe in the driver's seat, and would never remove Obama (via impeachment or the 25th amendment).
Nixon admitted that he kept Agnew on the ticket in 1972 for that very reason. And that's why Agnew had to be removed first before impeaching Nixon.
I've always thought that the "canary in the coal mine" for Obama is Biden -- i.e. any serious effort to remove him from office would start with Biden.
If something were to happen to Obama, I could see Biden becoming another George III, and talking to trees.
In my opinion Ryan nailed it several times. Ryan also got the last words in since stupid Radovich had Biden go first on closing words.
Biden revealed the plans for the second Obamination reign (God forbid it should occur) when he said, “we plan to level the playing field.”
That said more than he realized - “We Plan to Level the Playing Field”! Chilling words. Biden let it slip.
IMHO, anyone who hasn’t made up their mind by now, with the huge difference between O and R, is not serious about politics or this country. They are the type that decides elections based on their “feelings”.
If that is so, then these last voters would be hugely turned off by Biden. Myself, I don’t need my candidate to be a “nice” guy. But I do need him moral and principled - and Biden smirking and eye rolling while Ryan talked about American values fills me with anger. He doesn’t deserve the office.
I think the Dems made a huge mistake last night.
If Hillary reminds every man of his ex-wife, Biden reminds every woman of her boorish and overbearing ex-husband.
My daughter tweeted this very thing last night...
She escaped from a very demeaning, over-bearing cruel man and she said her skin crawled just listening to Biden...she had flashbacks to the ex.
Watched Frank Luntz focus group discussion on Fox right after the debate, at the end he asked the group if any of them were still undecided on who to vote for and many said they had still not made up their minds.................unbelievable
I agree...all of us understand the lingo and shorthand they were using but the average watcher might not...Biden didn't explain any of his zingers, he said 47% a lot but didn't really explain the story, and not everyone knows about that, including my smart but disinterested wife who obviously hasn't been listening to me rant.
Average people tuned out to the facts and figures going back and forth, but could not stop being grated by Biden's cheesy rude smile.
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