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MSNBC's Dyson: 'All Hate Ain't Equal'; 'Horrible' Americans Have 'Fomented Hostility Toward Muslims'
NewsBusters ^ | 09/14/2012 | Ken Shepherd

Posted on 09/14/2012 1:54:30 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Discussing the violent anti-American demonstrations erupting across the Middle East outside U.S. embassies in Arab capitals, MSNBC contributor Michael Eric Dyson put a share of the blame on, well, "horrible" Americans.

It was the "demonization of a predictable minority," in this case Muslims, that was the spark that light the conflagration, Dyson argued on the September 14 edition of the noon Eastern program Now with Alex Wagner. "It's not as if, oh in America, we've resolved this with equanimity and grace," he added, seeking to conflate isolated incidents of hate speech against Muslims inside the United States with the violent response of the Arab street to an obscure low-budget YouTube video.

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"It [the anti-Islam film "Innocence of Muslims"] just exposes our flanks in a very serious fashion," the Georgetown University professor lectured.

Dyson's blame-America-first posture didn't sit well with at least one other panelist.

"Any day you want, on the Internet, [you can] go and find something to be offended about any religion in quite intense and graphic terms," BuzzFeed editor Ben Smith protested, adding that while the film is "offensive," there was "a very specific chain of events" where organizers were planning riots with the movie as an excuse. The bottom line is that "On any given day you can find something like this" to use as an excuse for a riot.

That was too simple an explanation for Dyson, who then turned to the left-wing professor's favorite bogeyman, colonialism.

"What is it, Rosaldo Renato [sic, it's really Renato Rosaldo], the anthropologist talks about imperialist nostalgia, in one sense" where "we destroy countries and then we go weep with them after they've been destroyed," Dyson lectured Smith, before laughably adding (emphasis mine):

Now, you're talking about a chain of events necessarily, that has to focus on what actually happened. But if you draw back a bit, that doesn't account for what America has done, how it has been perceived and understood in a world where it has also fomented, with far more skill and grace, than these so-called barbaric acts that have revealed it. I think we have to have a bit more responsibility in that.

Struggling to contain his laughter, Smith shot back, "Well, sure, but what actually happened does seem like something that you ought to be discussing here," prompting Dyson to double down, "But what happens is what America has done and contributed."

A few moments later, Dyson, an ordained Baptist minister, tripled down, which is where his "horrible" Americans charge came down:

You can find a lot of hate on the Internet. But that ain't all equal. All hate ain't equal. It doesn't target people with the kind of vicious specificity that Muslims have endured in this country since 9/11. So we can't pretend because there could be some anti-Christian stuff that's out there that it parallels what's going on, that, that not only attacks and assaults Muslims but also stigmatizes them in ways that we haven't quite dealt with in our society.

So when we see these kind of conflagrations, we're able to point the finger: oh, how horrible it is. But we're horrible too because we've quietly, you know, fueled and fomented the kind of unnecessary hostility that we ought to take a mirror and look at ourselves.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; alexwagner; antiamericanism; bensmith; blameamericafirst; definingdeviancydown; guilttripping; islam; islamicrageboy; islamicragemonkeys; jihad; liberalguilt; liberalhatred; michaelericdyson; msnbc; renatorosaldo; waronterror; whywefight
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Full title MSNBC Contributor Dyson: 'All Hate Ain't Equal'; 'Horrible' Americans Have 'Fomented... Hostility Toward Muslims' abbreviated due to excessive length.

VIDEO at link.

1 posted on 09/14/2012 1:54:37 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Drop dead Dyson.


2 posted on 09/14/2012 1:55:35 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

All in favor or cranking up the fomentation, say Aye!

I don’t hate them. I do hate the things they do. And I think I share their belief in retribution.


3 posted on 09/14/2012 1:57:15 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Fledermaus

And the Obama Fascists go marching along.


4 posted on 09/14/2012 1:57:43 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Fledermaus

OH NOES!!! Did I just hated...?!? ;)

5 posted on 09/14/2012 1:58:06 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

They’re just such good, tolerant people. And everybody else sucks. Nothing’s ever their fault. Always an excuse.


6 posted on 09/14/2012 1:59:21 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Now a Chick-fil-A customer . . . God bless Dan Cathy)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Moslems have no hostility of their own.


7 posted on 09/14/2012 1:59:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: bigbob
All in favor or cranking up the fomentation, say Aye!

Moved and seconded!

8 posted on 09/14/2012 2:00:02 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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9 posted on 09/14/2012 2:00:02 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Funny thing, when you respond to a religious cult that endorses slavery, molesting women, raping children and killing anyone who refuses to submit to them - then YOU are a hater.

Does this idiot realize who the aggressor is?


10 posted on 09/14/2012 2:00:12 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
The Muslims deserve every bit of hate speech since 9/11. Rather than Obama apologizing to them he should call them out like he tries to do on Romney.
11 posted on 09/14/2012 2:00:21 PM PDT by YukonGreen
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Michael Eric Dyson's shoddy research and narcissistic writing style - as exemplified in Mercy Mercy Me - have fomented hostility among Marvin Gaye fans worldwide.

If he had an embassy I'd be burning a copy of that worthless book on its steps right now while he nervously wiped gravy off some of his chins.

12 posted on 09/14/2012 2:00:52 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

FoamingMental Dyson..


13 posted on 09/14/2012 2:01:08 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

anti-muslim terrorism is rampant, we have been chopping off far too many muslim heads and committing mass rape against muslims as ethnic cleansing....

oh hang on...

It’s MUSLIMS doing those things.


14 posted on 09/14/2012 2:01:19 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Fledermaus

Maybe mobs of shouting Christians should burn Mosques and Egyptian Flags—step on Korans and pee on them as a response? We can be as crazy as they are! Nope—not in our Christian concepts—Its hard to keep emotions from raging—Americans should do something-—Sometimes I think a violent response is needed. How about boycotting all Arab shops and restaurants? Tossing Bacon into Mosques?


15 posted on 09/14/2012 2:01:22 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Oh please Dyson us Christians put up with this crap from the media, hollywood, and now the White House on a daily basis. You don’t see us storming buildings and raping and assassinating diplomats.

Has nothing to do with “horrible Americans”, it has everything to do with these subhuman bloodthirsty feral dogs and their made up religion of violence and Satan.


16 posted on 09/14/2012 2:01:46 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Hostility? Wait until we get our own Beslan. You’ll see HOSTILITY putz!


17 posted on 09/14/2012 2:01:50 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The cult of Islam should be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.


18 posted on 09/14/2012 2:02:26 PM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Mr Dyson you sir are an IDIOT.
islam is a religion of hate oppression and death.
The muslims hate America and Western Civilization and if they ever got control it is morons like you that they would behead first.


19 posted on 09/14/2012 2:03:17 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for e an the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: bigbob
I don't hate the Muzzies either, but I sure do fear them! My husband fought them in Morocco during the cold war.
20 posted on 09/14/2012 2:04:28 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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