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OPINION: Libyan Invasion Imminent, In September, 2012 -- But For ALL The Wrong Reasons [Vanity]
Sept 14, 2012 | Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 09/14/2012 11:27:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz

Based on the bits and pieces of information scattered across the web, I am about to embark on a bold prediction:

America will invade Libya in the next 7 to 10 days.

Here's a few pieces of information that lead me to this conclusion:

  1. Marines headed to Libya to reinforce security
  2. Obama vows justice for ambassador killing Kinda some pretty tough talk, coming out of such a 'chill out' President, no?
  3. BREAKING!!Libya closes Benghazi airport after Islamists fire at U.S. drones in which we learn "The closure of the airport prompted speculation that the United States was deploying special forces in preparation for an attack against the militants who were involved.'

So, is a military action wise so close to an election? It is, if you want the Rally 'Round the Flag effect.

What is the Rally Round the Flag effect? It is a boost in Presidential popularity during a military engagement, as "in times of crisis, the American public sees the President as the embodiment of national unity".

This effect is strong, but short lived, and tends to peak at a little under two months.

A little under two months from now would put the peak squarely on Election day.

Would Obama be so narcissistic, so self-serving, so manipulative, as to time an attack to maximize his chance of altering the election for President?

I think we all know the answer to that.


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To: Genoa
New moon darkness: Sunday Sept. 16; Monday Oct. 15.

Oh crap.

Sept 16 it is.

21 posted on 09/14/2012 11:48:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Lazamataz

What are you defining as an “invasion”?

Detachment of Marines to defend an embassy?

101st Airborne?

Something in-between?


22 posted on 09/14/2012 11:48:48 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: henkster
NO SIR ... NO WAR HAS BEEN LOST !

The bloody fighting will have just begun.

23 posted on 09/14/2012 11:49:24 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Lazamataz

Very plausible reasoning. We’ll see what happens in the next couple of weeks.


24 posted on 09/14/2012 11:50:46 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd
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To: DuncanWaring
What are you defining as an “invasion”?

Enough troops for News Media cooing. Exactly that much, and no more. I don't know that number, but focus group pros would.

25 posted on 09/14/2012 11:51:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

New moon on Sept 16. That is likely to be the invasion day.


26 posted on 09/14/2012 11:51:43 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Lazamataz
America will invade Libya in the next 7 to 10 days.

Not in 7-10, isn't going to happen, zero chance. The reason can be given by with the answer one simple question. Where are the carriers?

Eisenhower and Enterprise are off Iran. Close but to get to Libya they either have to transit the Suez, can you say suicide, or go all the way around Africa. Lincoln just tied up in Norfolk after a long deployment. Truman is off the East coast working up a new air group. Not one carrier is in the Med, and there is no way to get one there in a week. You don't go into battle with your boots off. You don't launch an invasion without air cover.

Any air cover would have to come from European bases in France, Italy, or Spain. Considering those countries large North African minorities you have to ask a second question. Do you really thing those countries want to see their cities go up in flames?

We have no air cover, no logistical support, no large reaction forces embarked on ships. Yet you think we are going to launch an invasion in less than a fortnight?

Minimum invasion time would be one month. The moon and tides are perfect for it now, literally this weekend would be perfect, but we don't have the forces in place. Miss the moon and the tides and you have to wait another month to get it right. That would make it an October total lack of surprise.
27 posted on 09/14/2012 11:51:58 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Lazamataz

Bump for a chilling prediction!


28 posted on 09/14/2012 11:53:30 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: GonzoGOP
You make great points.

However, read this, and you will understand aircraft carriers are optional.

Touchdown: B-2 stealth jets return after epic 11,500 mile journey to bomb Libyan aircraft shelters

29 posted on 09/14/2012 11:55:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Lazamataz

That’s my birthday. Please don’t spoil it with an invasion.


30 posted on 09/14/2012 11:55:43 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: Lazamataz

no, we wont.

we will be fighting them here, and we will be called evil for doing so

I predict that will start within 60 days


31 posted on 09/14/2012 11:56:20 AM PDT by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: RaceBannon

It’s 54 days until the election. It has to happen soon to maximize the Wag-the-Dog effect.


32 posted on 09/14/2012 11:58:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Genoa
Overlay that with the upcoming Jewish holidays (you remember the Yom Kippur sneak attack *on* Israel...)?
33 posted on 09/14/2012 11:58:36 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Red Badger

I fear you overestimate the rationality of the unwashed masses. Rally around the flag they would. My initial gut feeling regarding these events was anger with desire for retribution. After reflection, I realize invasion would accomplish little but further degrade our military forces that have been pushed to the limit for ten years. I assume more rational minds in the administration would nix major boots on the ground ops in favor of air power. Grand spectacle with little risk of failure. Such enthralling television it would be, wrapping the 0ne in the flag all the way to his second inaugaration.


34 posted on 09/14/2012 12:02:58 PM PDT by buckalfa (Nabob of Negativity)
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To: buckalfa

Drone strikes and cruise missiles don’t make for good photo-ops........


35 posted on 09/14/2012 12:05:45 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: Lazamataz

either way, he is doing this as intentionally as he is destroying our economy, that I fully believe


36 posted on 09/14/2012 12:07:53 PM PDT by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: Lazamataz

No.

This prediction is wrong. We will not be invading Libya.


37 posted on 09/14/2012 12:07:53 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: RaceBannon

I agree, Race.


38 posted on 09/14/2012 12:08:18 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: grey_whiskers
Rosh Hashanah sundown Sunday Sept. 16. Yom Kippur sundown Tuesday Sept. 25.


39 posted on 09/14/2012 12:08:38 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Lazamataz

That attack would be wrong on so many levels.


40 posted on 09/14/2012 12:09:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Take two Aspirin and call me in November - Obama for Hindmost.)
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