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1 posted on 08/27/2012 4:21:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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“(The key to ending OPEC’s control over the U.S. transportation industry)” How about DRILL BABY DRILL and America could end OPEC’s control over the U.S. within five (5) years!

As long as there is a Muslim in the WH, OPEC will continue to control the U.S. transportation industry with the Unions controlling the TSA stopping and searching Americans and their vehicles.

Americans will never be free of Middle East oil until Obama is out of the WH period. Natural gas, crude oil, Nuclear power, and any other form of natural power that Americans can invent or develop without government control, and NAZI boots on the neck of refineries and oil pipelines will end OPEC’s control over the US!

2 posted on 08/27/2012 4:29:55 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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I have seen T Boone on Cavuto make the case that we could become independent pretty much by fueling the heavy commercial fleet with natural gas.

He is basically a good ol’ boy, but a smart good ol’ boy. T Boone has spent a good bit of time as an elder good ol’ boy studying the problem. Being old and free from the restraints of those not retired frees one’s mind to think beyond the limits of day to day. He has done just that.

The problem now boils down to devising and implementing the transistion.


3 posted on 08/27/2012 4:33:17 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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Let me know when they develop the impact-proof fuel system first.


4 posted on 08/27/2012 4:33:26 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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Seriously? No. We already tried natural gas as a widespread fuel back in the 70s and again in the 2000s (though the second time it was used as a fleet-only fuel). It doesn’t work out at all the way this writer thinks, and there were many homeowners who could tell you about how bad an idea it was when their neighbor’s natural gas compressor for his car went on fire/exploded/leaked and blew up half the block back in the 70s.


5 posted on 08/27/2012 4:35:52 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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BUMP


6 posted on 08/27/2012 4:35:52 AM PDT by kitkat
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Boon Pickens wants to recoup the money he lost on his wind farms by driving up the price of his natural gas holdings. We have enough oil to fill all our domestic needs and to become an exporter. We just need to drill it.


7 posted on 08/27/2012 4:39:17 AM PDT by SUSSA
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So who's going to line up to buy the new GM "Combustible"?

* crickets chirping *

Maybe if Toyota or Honda jump on board. Anything non-union's a candidate.

11 posted on 08/27/2012 4:42:23 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Perhaps some will now understand why the environmental movement is trying to kill natural gas now.

Once natural gas becomes used for transportation fuel, it will be insane to reverse course and pursue subsidized electric, ethanol or algae.

Clean, domestic natural gas, produced by American workers earning above-average wages will become part of our culture in places like Pennsylvania, Ohio and New York.

Turning the traditionally blue states of Pennsylvania and New York into energy proucers will also change the politics of those states......something liberals cannot allow.


18 posted on 08/27/2012 4:50:52 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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Natural Gas for Cars (The key to ending OPEC’s control over the U.S. transportation industry)

Geez, what dopey crap. Sounds as though it's written by someone heavily invested in natural gas. More than half of U.S. petroleum does not come from OPEC nations. 60% of world petroleum is non-OPEC petroleum. And since the beginning of oil production (1859), the world has used about 1 trillion barrels. The United States, in oil shale alone, has about 2 trillion barrels. This doesn't include what is out there on the continental shelf or in Alaska and other places. North America (U.S., Canada, and Mexico) dwarfs the petroleum reserves of the rest of the world.
20 posted on 08/27/2012 4:51:53 AM PDT by aruanan
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Pickens makes some very good arguments, but he has a financial interest in promoting natural gas. He may be totally on mark, but I'd like to hear an unbiased assessment of the benefits & RISKS associated with natural gas vehicles.

Unless things have changed since my motor-home owning days about 15 years ago, just filling up the tank can blow you to kingdom come by overfilling the tank. Either NG has got to become idiot proof, or gas stations are gonna have to go back to using (competent) attendants to fill your vehicle.

25 posted on 08/27/2012 5:09:22 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Greenies won’t support it. It’s still a ‘fossil fuel’ that produces greenhouse gases.

The vehicles are much slower with a range half that of current vehicles.

Like electrics, they are for special uses (which could be greatly expanded) and wealthy hobbyists.


27 posted on 08/27/2012 5:26:07 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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When I view the National Review article, the banner ad, from Chevron, says -- in colorful capital letters:

"We're spending over $8 billion dollars this year on
energy projects that move America forward"

The second line is in red, as if to enhance the socialist undertones, and it's alignment with the Obama campaign. Most of the Web pages I view seem to have an Obama ad on them, usually inviting me to dinner with Barack. This seems of a piece. My web browser must be infested with an Obama cookie.

30 posted on 08/27/2012 5:32:39 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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There’s also room for the coal and nat gas to oil conversion. A pliot plant has been in operation and a commercial scale plant is being considered.The Fischer Tropf process I think it is called. Take the fuels we have in abundance, combine into a form we need.

Plus, there is shale all over the world including China. They will exploit whether or not we do.


32 posted on 08/27/2012 5:33:16 AM PDT by cicero2k
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Natural gas makes more sense for trucks. An increasing number of companies have trucks that can use Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) or diesel. Rather than needed natural gas refueling in every neighborhood, you just need it every 300 miles or so at truck stops on major interstate highways.

It is MUCH easier to cost-justify the more expensive dual-fuel engine on a commercial vehicle that consumes hundreds of gallons per month.

33 posted on 08/27/2012 5:38:12 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (A deep-fried storm is coming, Mr Obama.)
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Does anyone see this is article was written before and released on the Cusp of the GOP's Convention?

A Cowinkadink? I think not....

IMHO it is an Ipso-Facto endorsment of Team Romney/Ryan who would enable this, without having to endorse them. specifically....

34 posted on 08/27/2012 5:38:25 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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Did anyone notice a couple of weeks ago Waste Management had a press release denoting Gaseous Fuel Stations and will allow the general public to come and fill up as well?

That and Clean Energy's 150 filling stations @ Pilot Truck stops signifys the infrastructure is not only coming it is almost here...

38 posted on 08/27/2012 5:50:25 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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limited range or no cargo space due to tanks is a huge problem.

Another is refueling. in Minneapolis we have one public station.

Now.. if you run out of fuel.. we’ll your screwed. No carrying a gallon can of fuel to the car.

No thanks to nat gas cars.

Drill baby drill.


41 posted on 08/27/2012 5:54:34 AM PDT by cableguymn
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But suppose we become what many, inaccurately, call “energy independent” — that is, we produce about as much oil as we use. Wouldn’t that solve our problem?

No.

That's a little misleading. If the U.S. were to add enough petroleum capacity to become "energy independent" it is true that this oil would compete for customers at the world market price. And we would pay that price. But adding that much new oil to the worlds daily available supply would certainly result in less influence on the price of oil than is currently enjoyed by OPEC.

How much? I don't know but I wouldn't be asking T. Boone Pickens for my answer. He's pushing natural gas not oil.

42 posted on 08/27/2012 5:56:19 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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” - - - One of us (Pickens) emphasizes transitioning the nation’s heavy-duty and fleet-vehicle market to compressed and liquefied natural gas - - - “

Who is going to pay for this “transitioning” that you are trying to sneak by us taxpayers, Boone?

If this is such a marvelous idea Boone, then why are you trying to tax-hustle the Federal Government into something that the market finds unprofitable?

Obama had his Solyndra fling, and now T. Boone wants his tax-funded Nat. Gas boon-doggle.

If you build it Boone, then you did that.

Write a check or shut up!


57 posted on 08/27/2012 6:50:38 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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T. Boone still trying to get the Feds to force us all to use his product, and so increase it’s price.

Natural gas has some promise, the market should determine how much.


58 posted on 08/27/2012 6:50:57 AM PDT by free me (It's serious fun!)
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