Posted on 08/13/2012 9:58:08 PM PDT by blam
When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
August 13, 2012
By Jim Karger
“When they come for my gun, they will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands,” is a common refrain I often hear from the Neo-Cons when there is a threat, credible or otherwise, that the US government is going to take their firearms.
And, when I hear this crazy talk, I agree with them openly. “You are right. They will pry your gun from your cold dead hands,” which I often follow with the question, “And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood [in] the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?”
This is not a question they are comfortable with, if only because the intent of their saber-rattling was to imply they would fight to keep their weapons, and win.
Nice fantasy. It’s not happening.
If the federal government decides to disarm the public, and when the increasingly-militarized rolls down your street after a not-so-subtle request that you kindly turn over your firearms and ammunition “for the common good,” it will be nothing less than suicide by cop to do anything other than what you are told.
The militarization of US police forces is ongoing and escalating. Many cities and towns now own tanks, armed personnel carriers, even attack helicopters, and almost all are outfitted with military weapons not available to the general public.
And, it is not just your hometown cops who are getting new boy-toys. The military itself is buying up weaponry not just for use in the current or next scheduled war, but to deal with the likes of you, citizens who don’t seem to understand that the Bill of Rights has been overruled, and that specifically includes, but is not limited to, the right to protest and engage in civil disobedience.
Also ignored (as if it didn’t even exist) is the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 which generally bars the military from law enforcement activities within the United States.
According to Public Intelligence:
“…for the last two years, the President’s Budget Submissions for the Department of Defense have included purchases of a significant amount of combat equipment, including armored vehicles, helicopters and even artillery, under an obscure section of the FY2008 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for the purposes of ‘homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities.’ Items purchased under the section include combat vehicles, tanks, helicopters, artillery, mortar systems, missiles, small arms and communications equipment. Justifications for the budget items indicate that many of the purchases are part of routine resupply and maintenance, yet in each case the procurement is cited as being ‘necessary for use by the active and reserve components of the Armed Forces for homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities’ under section 1815 of the FY 2008 NDAA.”
And, they are not just arming cops and weekend warriors for domestic purposes. Active duty Marines are now being trained for law enforcement operations all over the world (of which the US remains a part) specifically to deal with civil uprisings, and the US government knows that civil uprisings are coming to a town near you just as soon as the fantasy of a healing economy is shattered, the US dollar fails, and unemployment goes to 30%+ in real numbers.
And, to you tough-talking Neo-Cons with your AR-15 rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammo, here is the reality: they will take your guns, and no, all your Second Amendment bluster aside, you are not going to do anything about it. You are not going to take on a platoon of Marines with state-of-the-art automatic weapons and the best body armor you cannot buy protected by armed personnel carriers and attack helicopters unless you choose to die that day — for nothing. You will either be in the country or out, and if you are in, you will stay in and you will comply.
That is your choice… for the moment.
4) He knows their efforts to do such things would be met with heavy resistance so he is hoping he can demoralize us enough to have an effect that is positive for his liberal side. Fat chance!
Agreed. If our side has any failure, it's the lack of any coherent "line in the sand."
Of course, that's not to say one could not crystalize VERY quickly given an agenda like the one listed.
She’s just a troll, don’t waste your time.
To do that in the media, they would need to silence talk radio, the internet, and FOX.
If they do that, under any pretext(s), it will be a signal that Hugo Chavez Time has begun, and the contract (1st Amd) has been busted apart.
My 16-year-old daughter saw this on Memebase.com: “The second amendment is more important that the first amendment, because if you have a gun, you can say anything you want.”
Even today’s teens “get” this.
If she was up to the standard of some notable former FR trolls, perhaps. But she can’t even stay up with a line of reasoning.
Stripes?
Animal House
Propaganda, while both effective and pernicious, is not determinative. It does have limits. And I think a survey of America's "gun culture" over the last hundred years is a pretty good indicator of those limitations.
/johnny
Amen X 1,000. I’d rather make a team out of 20 motivated Boy Scouts with no guns than 20 slugs with guns.
I’d have the Souts disarming the slugs in no time. And there are millions with more skills than I possess.
It isn't going to be fast. It may well take years. Let's hope that IF it gets to that point, for the swiftest restoration of our Constitutional Republic and the ouster of the Socialist "democracy" we are currently under the thumb of. The longer this drags out, the more needless bloodshed there will be.
This is why the gun grabbers incessantly push the gun show loophole myth.
If they can control your property and control the buying of that property they have everything locked up.
They still need to get people who purchase guns years ago to divulge what they have, but they will be cooking up a scam to justify that soon enough.
What you apparently fail to understand is that the reason that our troops are being kept out of the country is because they will refuse to turn on their fellow Americans.
Logic simply IS. Facts are stubborn things... Repetitive application of the two drive ‘em nuts. ;-)
There's not a week that goes by that my three year old daughter doesn't pine for the time when she's "big enough to go shooting with daddy."
Though I'm not exactly sure she knows what that means ;o)
Finding this picture on my phone is what started it all:
I never, for a moment, ever believed they HAD consciences.
How could anyone who justifies murdering infants, murdering the elderly, stealing from one person to bribe another, etc., etc., HAVE a conscience?
What they believe in, and how they live their lives precludes having anything remotely resembling a moral base or conscience.
We need to remember that when dealing with them - and deal with them at that same level if the time comes.
I just wanted to thank you for a great post (#51). You summed up the situation succinctly.
Right on. And more importantly, we are the IT staff who maintain it.
As programmers, we control their software. As DBAs, we control their data. As systems administrators, we control their servers. They do nothing unless we allow it. They are deaf, dumb, and blind without us.
So to your point, Lady Lucky, that 90% of us won't hear anything in the first 24 hours ... realize that the IT staff will know of any such plans in advance. The first wave of our defense against such actions, will be software-based. So the warning will go out in advance.
“You see, sir, I was going camping with some buddies and we had this canoe accident...”
“The second amendment is more important that the first amendment, because if you have a gun, you can say anything you want.”
ROFL!!! I like her spunk! Maybe the SEAls could use a SEALette like the Delta boys do.
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