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When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
The Daily Reckoning ^ | 8-13-2012 | Jim Karger

Posted on 08/13/2012 9:58:08 PM PDT by blam

When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over

August 13, 2012
By Jim Karger

“When they come for my gun, they will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands,” is a common refrain I often hear from the Neo-Cons when there is a threat, credible or otherwise, that the US government is going to take their firearms.

And, when I hear this crazy talk, I agree with them openly. “You are right. They will pry your gun from your cold dead hands,” which I often follow with the question, “And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood [in] the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?”

This is not a question they are comfortable with, if only because the intent of their saber-rattling was to imply they would fight to keep their weapons, and win.

Nice fantasy. It’s not happening.

If the federal government decides to disarm the public, and when the increasingly-militarized rolls down your street after a not-so-subtle request that you kindly turn over your firearms and ammunition “for the common good,” it will be nothing less than suicide by cop to do anything other than what you are told.

The militarization of US police forces is ongoing and escalating. Many cities and towns now own tanks, armed personnel carriers, even attack helicopters, and almost all are outfitted with military weapons not available to the general public.

And, it is not just your hometown cops who are getting new boy-toys. The military itself is buying up weaponry not just for use in the current or next scheduled war, but to deal with the likes of you, citizens who don’t seem to understand that the Bill of Rights has been overruled, and that specifically includes, but is not limited to, the right to protest and engage in civil disobedience.

Also ignored (as if it didn’t even exist) is the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 which generally bars the military from law enforcement activities within the United States.

According to Public Intelligence:

“…for the last two years, the President’s Budget Submissions for the Department of Defense have included purchases of a significant amount of combat equipment, including armored vehicles, helicopters and even artillery, under an obscure section of the FY2008 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for the purposes of ‘homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities.’ Items purchased under the section include combat vehicles, tanks, helicopters, artillery, mortar systems, missiles, small arms and communications equipment. Justifications for the budget items indicate that many of the purchases are part of routine resupply and maintenance, yet in each case the procurement is cited as being ‘necessary for use by the active and reserve components of the Armed Forces for homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities’ under section 1815 of the FY 2008 NDAA.”

And, they are not just arming cops and weekend warriors for domestic purposes. Active duty Marines are now being trained for law enforcement operations all over the world (of which the US remains a part) specifically to deal with civil uprisings, and the US government knows that civil uprisings are coming to a town near you just as soon as the fantasy of a healing economy is shattered, the US dollar fails, and unemployment goes to 30%+ in real numbers.

And, to you tough-talking Neo-Cons with your AR-15 rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammo, here is the reality: they will take your guns, and no, all your Second Amendment bluster aside, you are not going to do anything about it. You are not going to take on a platoon of Marines with state-of-the-art automatic weapons and the best body armor you cannot buy protected by armed personnel carriers and attack helicopters unless you choose to die that day — for nothing. You will either be in the country or out, and if you are in, you will stay in and you will comply.

That is your choice… for the moment.


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1 posted on 08/13/2012 9:58:22 PM PDT by blam
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To: Travis McGee; Kartographer

(IAS)


2 posted on 08/13/2012 9:59:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Karger sure is a beam of sunshine.


3 posted on 08/13/2012 10:04:05 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: blam

A significant part of the public is viscerally opposed to our troops being half way around the world, killing savages. How much more public outrage will arise if the US Military were at home, killing US citizens who don’t want to turn over their guns?


4 posted on 08/13/2012 10:04:21 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: blam

We tried disarming the VC, the Iraqis and the Afghans-how’d that work out?


5 posted on 08/13/2012 10:04:30 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: blam

You really think US Marines will fire on US Citizens defending their Constitutional Rights?

I would be more worried about the person who GAVE that order to the Marines.

Fragging and ADs happen ALL the time..

:-)


6 posted on 08/13/2012 10:05:19 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: blam

No.


7 posted on 08/13/2012 10:05:36 PM PDT by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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To: blam

Our military doesn’t do to well agasinst guerilla or assymetric warfare even with its technology advantage.


8 posted on 08/13/2012 10:06:37 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: blam
Those are the words of a coward, and I wholeheartedly disagree with most of his reasoning and assumptions.

"And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood [in] the middle of the street, just another dead fool patriot resisting the State?”

This is the actual way it will end up for just enough armed patriots to get it through the thick skulls of those who are sitting on their butts that it is time to stand up and fight for your freedoms and die like a man, if necessary, or live as a slave, and I continue to hold the belief that such a spark will finally awaken the Revolutionary spirit that dwells in the hearts of a very large portion of Americans.
9 posted on 08/13/2012 10:07:44 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: blam
"When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over"

If they come for them, it will be for a reason - and I guarantee you won't like it.

10 posted on 08/13/2012 10:08:15 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: blam

It’s the ‘Neo-Cons’ that aren’t talking that you have to worry about.


11 posted on 08/13/2012 10:09:04 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: blam
True as can be.

12 posted on 08/13/2012 10:09:56 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: blam
Speak for yourself.

I follow the words that Charlton Heston said before his famous “From my cold dead hands speech”
See video from beginning to 1:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw

“Every time our country stands in the path of danger, an instinct seems to summon her finest first — those who truly understand her.
“When freedom shivers in the cold shadow of true peril, it's always the patriots who first hear the call.
“When loss of liberty is looming, as it is now, the siren sounds first in the hearts of freedom's vanguard. The smoke in the air of our Concord bridges and Pearl Harbors is always smelled first by the farmers, who come from their simple homes to find the fire, and fight, because they know that sacred stuff resides in that wooden stock and blued steel — something that gives the most common man the most uncommon of freedoms.
“When ordinary hands can possess such an extraordinary instrument, that symbolizes the full measure of human dignity and liberty. That's why those five words issue an irresistible call to us all, and we muster. So — so, as, ah, we set out this year to defeat the divisive forces that would take freedom away, I want to say those fighting words for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed — and especially for you, (Insert Tyrannical official): From my cold dead hands!”

13 posted on 08/13/2012 10:10:41 PM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: blam

This makes the assumption said people are just going to be passively waiting around in their own homes. And that there will be guns to be turned over.


14 posted on 08/13/2012 10:10:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: blam
This blurb seems written by a person who doesn't know even step one in conducting an effective insurrection.

Step One: Get a used concealable pistol in 9mm, 40S&W, or .45ACP in a face to face cash transaction and stash that "off the books" weapon where it won't be found by anyone else. Rule Number One: As a guerilla, NEVER engage the enemy in a stand up fight. . . .
15 posted on 08/13/2012 10:11:03 PM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: blam

Those military and police ARE us. Despite the desires of the regime, the young Lance Corporal or Airman or Seaman or Soldier are from our neighborhoods. It will take much PSYOP for them to pull the trigger on their kin.

Won’t take too much to convince the senior officers though...

Drones, anyone?

Hmmm.


16 posted on 08/13/2012 10:12:40 PM PDT by KitJ (Shall not be infringed)
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To: blam

“Red Dawn” bump.

Remake coming in November.


17 posted on 08/13/2012 10:13:46 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: blam
I say the police would turn tail and run at the first whiff of armed opposition.

They'd be just like those gun-wielding hoodies who piled up trying to get out of the jewelry store when an armed granny came after them.

18 posted on 08/13/2012 10:13:57 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: 2banana

No, but there is the worry of foreign troops being brought in to “help” that would fire on US civilians.


19 posted on 08/13/2012 10:14:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: blam
On that dark and bloody day, there will be many surprises...

Heaven forbid.

20 posted on 08/13/2012 10:14:11 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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