Posted on 08/06/2012 6:03:54 AM PDT by Zakeet
The suspect in a shooting that left six people dead at a Sikh temple in suburban Milwaukee on Sunday has been identified as Wade Michael Page, who served in the U.S. Army for about six years.
According to sources in the U.S. Army, Page enlisted in April 1992 and given a less-than-honorable discharge in October 1998. He served at Fort Bliss, Texas, in the psychological operations unit in 1994, and was last stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, attached to the psychological operations unit. The details of his discharge were not immediately clear.
Wade was killed outside the temple in a shootout with police officers after the rampage that left terrified congregants hiding in closets and others texting friends outside for help.
Officials had previously described the suspect as a heavy-set, 40-year-old Caucasian with numerous tattoos.
Sources tell CBS News some unspecified evidence suggests race or ethnicity may have played a role in the violence, but no links to extremist groups have been confirmed.
Local police called the attack an act of domestic terrorism, but other sources tell CBS News correspondent Bob Orr it may be more accurate to refer to "an investigation into a possible hate crime."
Neither the local nor the federal sources provided further details or suggested a possible motive, including whether the suspect specifically targeted the Sikh temple.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
It sure seems by witness accounts that there were multiple shooters. Maybe some Nazis got together for this rampage.
If we don’t hear anything else about these other shooters then my red flags are going to go up...
Maybe they were targeting the guy making the film about UFOs because of some Nazi believe about UFOs.
It seems Neo Nazis are very interested in UFOs.
Maybe a group of Nazis got together to try stop the documentary about UFOs. Yeah, I know there is no basis to believe that. Hard to get into the mind of a Neo Nazi mass murderer.
And having SOA on his business cards “ Soldier Of Allah”.....
The Neo nazi party endorsed the Occupy Wall Street pukes not too long ago. Wonder what they have against the Sikh community?I don't think these guys are the greatest thinkers on the planet, therefore I don't think this shooting had a great amount 'logic' behind it ... couple the limited thinking ability with say the emotion of a break-up and the band not doing too well some drug-taking and maybe this was just an 'opportunity' this nutball took as he drove down the street that day ...
BTW, did you happen to sample their (severe head-banger) music? There is link just a little further back on this thread ...
The timing isn’t the only thing that sticks out here... Reports indicate that he was from Colorado originally, AND he lived on HOLMES St. There is a lot of info. from the CO shooter that police have NOT released to the public, and there were reports that the FBI was perhaps looking for others who might have been involved (I assume because of the sophistication of the booby-traps in the shooter’s apartment, and that he said those traps “might” be there.)
This shooter was involved in psy ops, and the guy in Aurora was participating in neuroscience studies at a pretty notorious institution in CA before going to school at Anschutz. The CO shooter attended school in the same school that was home to the CIA’s project MK-Ultra ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra ). He stated that he was studying “why people act/react in the way they do” which is right along those same lines as what they were attempting to effect in the MK-Ultra project...
IN RE: TO “CONSPIRACY THEORIES” -
I don’t really believe in coincidences...
I do believe it’s ridiculous for everyone to assume that speculation into a possible connection equals some sort of “conspiracy theory”. How do those that make mercilessly mock those asking questions like this think our LEOs actually uncover terrorist networks and the like? In many cases yesterday’s “Conspiracy Theory” ends up being pretty dang close to today’s TRUTH...
To ridicule those who are awake an aware enough to notice the strange details doesn’t make someone a better, smarter person. To ridicule those who speculate on these things is to ignore the history, and the reality of the world we live in.
One of the news reports stated that there were TWO men who “cased” the temple last Friday. Another report states that someone was seen dropping the shooter off at the temple... That’s not a theory - those are actual reported facts. SOMEONE apparently CONSPIRED with this criminal, and that’s based on witness testimony - NOT some wacky theory...
It sure seems by witness accounts that there were multiple shooters.Discounted after interviews were conducted with a larger sample of witnesses; it is not uncommon for reports of 'multiples' to occur as mayhem on this scale unfolds ... cops would not have 'cleared' the scene were they sure another active shooter were hiding in the bldg (personal safety issue at that point; who wants to get plugged by a hidden shooter?) ...
Not a very funny joke, frankly. How many lurkers or even FReepers will see that and falsely assume that’s a real picture of the suspect despite the other details being off? We don’t need to help contribute to the disinformation campaign.
The timing isn’t the only thing that sticks out here... Reports indicate that he was from Colorado originally, AND he lived on HOLMES St. ..Bordering on 'numerology'; have you 'run the numbers' yet (day/date/month, street addresses, number of fatalities etc?)
Haven’t listened to the music yet. The lyrics might be interesting to know though. I still want to know about the so called 911 tattoo. Most neo’s are 911 truthers too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpSPqaD6iOo
The first one was expected to take 15-20 years (education of generations), destabilization was quicker but still took years, crisis could be brought about in weeks leading to normalization.
The interview of this Soviet defector took place in 1985. There are longer versions of this interview, but this segment is pretty short and the direct links to today's news (specifically Hussein's actions on destroying our economy and national security) are stark and cannot be denied.
He'll have more flexibility when he's elected—or maybe before if the crisis creation/exploitation gets more successful.
Maybe enough of us have awakened that the Colorado butchery didn't ignite a crisis despite the best efforts of the usual suspects to disarm us.
It's interesting to me that the Colorado shooter was working toward his degree in Neuroscience. According to Wiki, “Neuroscience is also allied with the social and behavioral sciences as well as nascent interdisciplinary fields such as neuroeconomics, decision theory, and social neuroscience to address complex questions about interactions of the brain with its environment.”
Also interesting, the perp in the Sikh murders was active in pysops before he got his DD, and both perps were psychologically damaged.
I wonder if we're in for a series of mass murders by wack-jobs with guns. I sure hope not. It could create a crisis.
Nita, I couldn't help but flash back to TEG/Akal and the fact that cult expert Rick Ross has called them a cult in the past. They are now one of the largest security firms in the US with billions of dollars in contracts with DOD and DHS. They've had lots of lawsuits against them. They do hire white people and give them Sikh names after indoctrination. I know you're way too busy now and a lot of the originals on this site are gone, but I so miss the investigations of old. Take care.
Have you seen anything that has discounted the testimony of witnesses as to seeing two men “casing” the temple last Friday? Same question in regards to the report of a witness stating they saw someone drop the shooter off at the temple?
No, I usually don’t delve into those aspects. It could be interesting though...
I saw a post above on this thread referring to the Torah code project that I haven’t had a chance to glance at yet. I find that project fascinating as well...
I don’t have as much time, or frankly the strength to delve into these investigations as I used to - especially like I did with the OU Bombing which has more links to the OKC bombing than you would believe... I do “smell” something strange here - even if it’s just a matter of a crazy person being “inspired” by coincidences. Like I said though - I’m not a big believer in pure coincidence.
There I said it. You can quote me. ; )
Hmmm....was just speaking about the Bible Codes Saturday night with dh. Not sure how much stock, if any, should be placed with the codes.
Thanks for the link, used to have to pay for such software.
“Perhaps he was just Sikh of it all.”
Oh that’s soooooo bad!!
“Well... they might stay in India but there are 25 million of them, and I bet they reconsider supporting some of the ‘rebels’ in neighboring countries. Saudi Arabia is only a boat ride away.”
I’m sorry, but I have to ask - are you seriously saying that Sikhs are supporting insurrection in Saudi Arabia? Or indeed anywhere else?
This looks like a case of a wannabe David Lane. No conspiracy here. He’s just bad people.
Considering there’s the flag in the upper left corner, the number 14 tattoo (the order) inside a Celtic cross (which by itself usually refers to Ireland or Scotland), this guy’s motives were clear. Neo-Nazi.
This looks like a case of a wannabe David Lane. No conspiracy here. He’s just bad people.
Considering there’s the flag in the upper left corner, the number 14 tattoo (the order) inside a Celtic cross (which by itself usually refers to Ireland or Scotland - but often co-opted by supremacists), this guy’s motives were clear. Neo-Nazi.
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