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Scalia: Guns May be Regulated
National Journal ^ | July 29, 2012 | John Aloysius Farrell

Posted on 07/29/2012 8:04:50 AM PDT by Greystoke

Justice Antonin Scalia, one of the Supreme Court's most vocal and conservative justices, said on Sunday that the Second Amendment leaves room for U.S. legislatures to regulate guns, including menacing hand-held weapons.

"It will have to be decided in future cases," Scalia said on Fox News Sunday. But there were legal precedents from the days of the Founding Fathers that banned frightening weapons which a constitutional originalist like himself must recognize. There were also "locational limitations" on where weapons could be carried, the justice noted.

When asked if that kind of precedent would apply to assault weapons, or 100-round ammunition magazines like those used in the recent Colorado movie theater massacre, Scalia declined to speculate. "We'll see," he said. '"It will have to be decided."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; scalia; scotus; supreme
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To: Mechanicos
It means even YOU as a FEDERAL employee have no authority to regulate our God Given right to keep and bear arms.

What are you talking about? They already do, and there are approximately 20,000 gun laws on the books to prove it.

141 posted on 07/29/2012 4:45:16 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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Scalia pointed out that the Second Amendment did not apply to “arms that cannot be hand-carried,” such as cannons.”

Really? I never saw that clause in the 2nd A.

142 posted on 07/29/2012 4:47:33 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Perdogg

“I think this is being taken out of context, as usual.”
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I saw this interview and it is not take out of context. Scalia believes that the legislature has the power to put reasonable regulation on the weapons that one can own and keep. My neighbor does not have the right to build a nuclear weapon, I think he used the example of anti-aircraft missles in the interview.


143 posted on 07/29/2012 4:52:04 PM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: Perdogg

“I think this is being taken out of context, as usual.”
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I saw this interview and it is not taken out of context. Scalia believes that the legislature has the power to put reasonable regulation on the weapons that one can own and keep. My neighbor does not have the right to build a nuclear weapon, I think he used the example of anti-aircraft missles in the interview.


144 posted on 07/29/2012 4:52:04 PM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: Sarajevo
Yes.... and none were Constitutionally authorized. The procedure to modify the 2nd which leaves no wiggle room is via article 5. Anything else has been unauthorized federal power grabs and why you should vote not guilty on such laws when you're on jury duty.
145 posted on 07/29/2012 5:01:16 PM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Perdogg
The example that Scalia cited was a hand canon. I think that a law forbidding the ownership of a M72 Laws rocket would probably meet the constitutionality test. People need to understand the context.

The 2nd Amendment is there so the people can combat the tyranny of an oppressive government. In order to do that, that means the citizenry should be able to own military hardware if they so choose.

Which is why it says "arms" instead of "bayonets and muskets" and that whole "shall not be infringed" part is there.

146 posted on 07/29/2012 5:36:46 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded.)
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To: Greystoke
Scalia said exceptions to gun rights were recognized when the Second Amendment was written, including a tort that prohibited people from carrying a “really horrible weapon just to scare people like a head ax or something.”

or something?

147 posted on 07/29/2012 6:10:59 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's Welfare, Food Stamps, Division and Disability 'Legacy')
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To: Greystoke

The 2nd Amendment nor any of the so called federal “bill of rights” were designed to apply to the states.

We have Separate & distinct State Constitution’s for that propose, and most free State Constitutions garentee the right to keep and bare arms.

WE HAVE NO NEED FOR WASHINGTON TO TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH OUR OWN STATE!


148 posted on 07/29/2012 6:41:32 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Greystoke

Guns were once required for citizens in some areas. Keeps taxes down.

;-)


149 posted on 07/29/2012 6:56:04 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Olog-hai

“Save, legal abortions” was a product of incorporation, you know the idea that Washington can shove its ugly head into any state and tell the State what it must & must not do.

Roe V. Wade I remind you was these Federal employees telling Texas that it could not prohibit the murder of the unborn.

They Claimed to justify their usurpation under the 9th Ammedment which reads:

“The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights,
shall not be construed to deny or disparage others
retained by the people.”

So Basicly washington’s hand picked employees are saying that becase They can’t do it, our States who are suppose to be seperately autherized by their own State Constitutions, can’t do it either.

Imagine that our States bound by the limitations of a 11 page Federal Constitution designed only to authorized a small handful of almost excursively foreign powers. We would have no domestic government at all!

But of course we have a Gigantic Domestic government imposed not only by Distant Washington unrestrained by it’s hand picked employees in black robes, but also by our local & state aperatious.

In short the Federal injustice system is designed to insure every man is a slave to an all powerful State no matter where he lives or whom he votes for.


150 posted on 07/29/2012 6:59:05 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise
Incorporation took care of that. I think the 2nd amendment was recently incorporated to the states.

-PJ

151 posted on 07/29/2012 7:02:47 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Yes, the federal injustices did pronounced their limits to apply to our States. But in doing so they must follow historic precedence too, That means the exceptions historically present and necessary for some State & local Governments will be available to Washington to exploit.

Incorporation of the 2nd amendment was ultimately the DEATH of the 2nd amendment because it cannot be upheld in every local situation, it now also cannot be upheld against Washington.


152 posted on 07/29/2012 7:12:50 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Greystoke
As Ice Cube said in an interview in England, "It's in our Constitution. Guns are our last defense against tyranny. It's not about hunting."

We damn well better have some pretty frigging frightening weaponry in the hands of the citizens. Oh, Scalia, look at what this guy wrote one year after the Constitution was ratified:
Tench Coxe, writing as "the Pennsylvanian" in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, 1788:

"The power of the sword, say the minority of Pennsylvania, is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for the powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from 16 to 60. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."
Why, Scalia? To frighten you and every other functionary of the federal government so that you'll remember who's boss and not slip into bad, old habits of governments around the world and throughout time.
153 posted on 07/29/2012 7:18:47 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Perdogg
I think this is being taken out of context, as usual.

Nope watched it myself.

154 posted on 07/29/2012 7:48:36 PM PDT by itsahoot (Old people cost too much money. They make lots of typos too.)
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To: 1malumprohibitum

We have not lost anything. The Justice is warning us that the second amendment is in jeopardy.


155 posted on 07/29/2012 7:50:51 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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To: reefdiver
Frightening ? What does that mean?

He used "Head Axe" as an example. However 100 clip magazines were what prompted the discussion. Scalia would have been better off to have said nothing. Sort of like another Dick forgot to do today.

156 posted on 07/29/2012 7:54:12 PM PDT by itsahoot (Old people cost too much money. They make lots of typos too.)
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To: Will88

In the post I replied to, you basically left out anything that could be put into the category of heavier ‘arms’, such as machine guns/anything crew served, explosives, and anything launched out of a tube.


157 posted on 07/29/2012 10:03:42 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: JRandomFreeper
Full auto weapons and short shotguns are particularly useful arms for a militia, they shouldn't require a license.

And I have no doubts that should the need arise for regular citizens to become the 'militia' once again, folks who want those weapons will find them.

158 posted on 07/29/2012 10:47:25 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: LibLieSlayer

Justice Joseph Story, appointed to the Supreme Court by our Constitution’s principal author, James Madison, wrote in his “Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States” (1833), “The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against usurpation and arbitrary power of the rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.”


159 posted on 07/30/2012 4:55:35 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

Amen!

LLS


160 posted on 07/30/2012 5:23:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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