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Aurora Shooter exhibits classic schizophrenia pattern
Vanity | July 20, 2012 | Prospero

Posted on 07/20/2012 3:43:35 PM PDT by Prospero

As a classic case of national hysteria slowly peaks, still within 24 hours after the massacre of theater-patrons attending a premier of the latest "Batman" thriller in Aurora, Colorado, it's become increasingly difficult to maintain a rational perspective.

Apparently without any shame whatsoever, an embattled White House still cannot hesitate to push itself out in front of the trickle of information coming out in the wake of these multiple murders.

That as many or more people will die in "random" shootings on the streets of major U.S. cities, Chicago in particular, on an average weekend, this July, still escapes the notice of our entertainment news-readers and other media.

Without any other obvious motive, however, and looking dispassionately for the most reasonable known pattern that fits the facts known at this hour about this massacre, and its lone perpetrator, I think it will eventually be determined that Mr. Holmes suffers from hereditary schizophrenia.

The vast majority of the organic types of that disease are males, often regarded as highly intelligent, and who rarely begin showing the first truly "full-blown" symptoms of such a disease until just prior to their 25th birthday.

Elaborate and fantastic delusions, resembling a nightmarish dream-state, that usually accompany the full, untreated symptoms of this very terrible disease are often so compelling, and build so slowly (and its sufferers often have such credibility or, in many cases, demonstrate such charisma) that loved ones and friends rarely catch on to their true state of mind until they disappear, or it is otherwise "too late."

Though the frightening episodes accompanying this disease very rarely strike such a responsive chord in national news cycles they are almost always devastating, inside a much smaller circle. Usually destroying families and friendships.

So far. at least, Mr. Holmes outrageous demonstration of the apparent symptoms of this disease, or another illness in the same family, still seems quite within a regular pattern, as horrific as that might seem to those who are unfamiliar with schizophrenia.

The reactions of the national news industry, in the immediate short term, and those of his victims, to this intrusion of the symptoms of a classic mental illness, is quite understandable.

Few are unfortunate enough to ever experience becoming drawn into the damaged circle of a schizophrenic's broken thinking, over our lifetimes.

This does not mean, however, that schizophrenia is unknown to law enforcement, competent political leadership, or the health establishment. Far from it.

For a White House, or the mayor of a large city elsewhere, to take such full and shameless political opportunity from a the short-term trauma and shock to the national peace and loss of perspective is nothing short of criminal.

As this president operates within his own diseased pattern of not allowing any tragedy to go to waste, over the course of the next few hours, before the situation elsewhere, likely Syria, distracts his fawning, ignorant fan base in the national media, keep these thoughts in mind.


TOPICS: FReeper Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aurora; braking; chat; colorado; jamesholmes; leftistmassmurder; mentalillness; partisanmediashills; psychiatry; schizophrenia; vanity
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To: Jedidah

Why would you get flamed for your post?


21 posted on 07/20/2012 4:09:52 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Jedidah
For those of us who have, we know that getting help for someone who adamantly refuses to acknowledge a problem is nigh impossible. Keeping a schizophrenic or violent bipolar patient on meds is also very hard, because they feel better and stronger and on top of their world unmedicated.

My daughter is schitzophrenic. Getting help is difficult and very expensive - and that's if you're willing and able to pay for it. Keeping them medicated when they don't want to be is impossible - and the medication isn't a cure. It just makes the voices a lot quieter - the patient is still mentally ill, although perhaps functional.

22 posted on 07/20/2012 4:12:39 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: EEGator

Because there are those here who deny the existence of mental illness. It’s already happened today, will again. Read some of the snarky comments on this thread.

It’s a difficult problem. The mentally ill used to get locked up in attics. Now we turn them loose on the streets. Surely there’s a middle ground.


23 posted on 07/20/2012 4:14:02 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: SCalGal

Hugs to you. We dealt with two seriously mentally ill family members for years. Fortunately neither killed anyone, but the emotional toll on the families was extensive.

We need better mental health intervention and care much more than we need all the frippery fluff the government now pays for.


24 posted on 07/20/2012 4:17:55 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Prospero

While the cry for gun control over this is deplorable (to to mention 180 degree illogical), and while you are correct about adult-onset schizophrenia, its delusional states and associations with situational aggression, what happened in Aurora simply does not fit those patterns.

Holmes (the shooter), while being currently described as a loner and untrained, exhibited nothing BUT training and support. He had access to a variety of weapons and explosives, he knew how to wire them into booby traps, he created a dual-site scenario, he made use of toxic gas and patterned his behavior after the psychopathy portrayed by Hollywood in Dark Knight Rises.

This is NOT a level of organization someone suffering from schizophrenia is even remotely capable of carrying out. In addition, it strongly suggests both training and supply help.

Oh, and the fact that Obama intends to sign a treaty that attempts to erase ALL private gun ownership in the country next week, AND that this wipes the Huma Abedin/Hillary Clinton investigation AND the Roberts Obamacare decision off the front page, AND directly mimics the basic Fast and Furious Democrat plan to unleash small arms mass murder and then call for gun control, is ENTIRELY coincidental.


25 posted on 07/20/2012 4:18:41 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Prospero
National Institute of Mental Health - Schizophrenia

Perhaps pharmaceutically induced.

SSRIs


26 posted on 07/20/2012 4:18:48 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Are schizophrenics organized (as in organized vs disorganized crimes)? I don’t think either of the two schizophrenics I’ve had contact with would have been capable of pulling this off. But maybe some would????


27 posted on 07/20/2012 4:19:32 PM PDT by Kipp
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To: Jedidah

Okay. I would say there are definitely mentally ill people. I see them in downtown Gainesville often.


28 posted on 07/20/2012 4:19:32 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Old Sarge
Nope. I am certainly not saying the perp wasn't at fault.

No, not at all.

My overall point is simply that his pattern of behavior fits that of a schizophrenic. If Colorado lacks an appropriate punishment then dispatching the perpetrator to God for judgement might actually be very appropriate.

My larger point was that the ridiculous hysteria on display by our entertainment-media complex, and the shameless opportunism being carried out by low-life pundits (particularly the psychopath presently living in the White House) and gun-control nuts like Mayor Bloomberg and Governor Rendell is not merely "out of proportion" to the situation when compared to the slow-motion, apparently less entertaining, massacres happening in cities like Chicago, is hateful and criminal.

29 posted on 07/20/2012 4:21:28 PM PDT by Prospero
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To: Jedidah
We need better mental health intervention and care much more than we need all the frippery fluff the government now pays for.

I'm thinking that locking them in the attic ain't so bad... But, yes, I'd sure rather pay for that than for all CA's illegals.

30 posted on 07/20/2012 4:21:30 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: mkjessup

I don’t think the author cares about an insanity defense. He cares about spurious accusations of “tea party” responsibility and the Democrats’ need to exploit every random disaster as political.


31 posted on 07/20/2012 4:22:04 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: SCalGal

I’m so very sorry.

I have known a sociopath and have the scars to prove it. It’s a compelling whirlpool.


32 posted on 07/20/2012 4:22:34 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Jonty30

and I’m going to take a guess and say that as a brainy nerd who got two degrees in neuroscience while battling the demons that onset this disease, he was using something more stimulative than the depressive pot, something that made him feel even more omnipotent to answer the orders given by the voices in his head

pills or some cocktail of drugs he concocted from his laboratory access, my guess


33 posted on 07/20/2012 4:23:21 PM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: Prospero

My GAYDAR is going BANANAS!!!!


34 posted on 07/20/2012 4:23:49 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Prospero

This might be schizophrenia, although it’s extremely rare for schizophrenics to murder, even more rare for them to mass murder. The fact that his behavior included methodical and logical steps counts against the schizophrenia idea.

Seems more likely this slaughter is the offspring of OWS.


35 posted on 07/20/2012 4:26:14 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: combat_boots
I have known a sociopath and have the scars to prove it. It’s a compelling whirlpool.

Whirlpool is a good way to describe it - you can watch them circling the drain while they're fighting to get away from any help.

36 posted on 07/20/2012 4:26:52 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: EEGator

Hey now, he has people skills.


37 posted on 07/20/2012 4:27:56 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Talisker
... ENTIRELY coincidental.

Yep - the timing is impeccable...

38 posted on 07/20/2012 4:28:09 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: reasonisfaith
Seems more likely this slaughter is the offspring of OWS.

Whatever the cause, it's premeditated murder.

39 posted on 07/20/2012 4:29:10 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: Prospero

I hope someone finds out all the TRUTH they can about this nut job before Obama’s guestapo move in, cover up, and frame this thing for anything but what it actually is...


40 posted on 07/20/2012 4:29:25 PM PDT by Mister Anderson (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the Idiots)
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