Posted on 06/28/2012 6:54:37 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
Upon further review and discussion here, I've concluded that the majority opinion of Chief Justice Roberts in the ObamaCare case was exactly what this country needed. He effectively took the heap of crap that had been dumped in the halls of the U.S. Supreme Court and tossed it right back out where it belongs: in the homes and businesses of every U.S. citizen who has allowed this bunch of fools in Washington to govern us this way.
Think of it, folks ... Any obligation of the U.S. Supreme Court to deal with this idiocy went out the window the moment that dingbat Nancy Pelosi stood up on television and said: "We have to pass the bill to see what's in it."
If I were a Supreme Court justice, I wouldn't spend 30 seconds of my life reading a single legal brief in a case involving a Federal statute that was passed even though the Speaker of the House of Representatives didn't even read the damn thing before voting on it.
On top of all that, just consider this: There were 28 states that filed legal challenges to ObamaCare, either individually or jointly. How can 28 states file legal challenges to a Federal law that was passed in the U.S. Senate by a 60-39 margin? If I'm sitting on the Supreme Court and the Attorney General of, say, Pennsylvania (which is one of these 28 states) comes in for oral arguments in the case, my first and only "question" would be: "If you have such a problem with this Federal statute, why don't you take it up with Bob Casey, Arlen Specter and those nine House members in your state who passed the damn thing ... along with the idiots in your state who cast their electoral votes for that jug-eared Kenyan nitwit in 2008?"
Exactly right. Robert has painted them into a corner from which they cannot back out. Brilliant. Soon enough the Dems will realize what has happened. And they will scream to high heaven. But, since their own Justices ruled....
They know, they don't care, they'll just tell the dumb-downed electorate that the Supreme Court validated ObamaCare, and they'll buy it, and go back to watching American Idol....the people who actually pay attention to this stuff is a very small percentage of the population.
Oops, never mind, it’s in the post: the Anti-Injunction Act.
Under these circumstances they did not have the power, but gave it back to congress.
They cannot rule on whether a law is good or bad only if it’s in their realm of “constitutional”. In this case 0 and Co tried to pull a fast one, they manipulated the exsisting rules and law ala Alinsky and the CJ called them on it.....
Much better at stopping such behavior in the long run, then just slapping their wrists.....
and it brought the lying, cheating SOB who tried to tax us to death to the front.
Stop being mad at the messeenger and get into action to eliminate the problem....the RATS.
You would think so.
The first question I had when I first heard this was, "Who is responsible for overturning passage of the bill if it was passed improperly?" Does it have to go to SCOTUS? Can the Speaker do it? Does it take Presidential action? Who?
I am trying to deal with my Roberts hatred, but after reading the ruling I think he is saying:
This is a tax. You can call it anything you want to. If you are all stupid enough to believe somehow that it isn’t (God help us all) then pay it and shut up. We can’t rule against a tax that you all agreed to. We can’t rule against a bad law unless it is unconstitutional and that is a big test. Fix it.
We can’t depend on the SC to conservatize our legislation.
Who has the power to overturn a law that was beyond the perimeters of the Rules of Congress? Can it be voided? Resubmitted? Is it covered under “Rules of Order” Now that it is ruled a TAX by the SCOTUS, and was instigated in the Senate, who rights that wrong? Lawsuit? By whom against whom?
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government
How about we use the tools at our disposal before resorting to violent overthrow?
Just stop the quote at ALTER....that’s by voting.
I agree, I’m just getting tired of all of these would-be Patrick Henry types sprouting up, talking about things they don’t understand and don’t have the first clue how to plan and execute.
We still have many options available to us. It’s not even close to being over.
That's exactly right. It's not just a tax, either. Any legal action has to be brought by someone who has the proper legal standing to file the lawsuit. And in order to have proper legal standing you have to be able to demonstrate that you've been harmed in some way by someone's actions. Almost by definition (since there may be unusual cases that I haven't thought about here), a tax that isn't implemented for another two years isn't something that causes harm today.
The rationale for a court to take a hands-off approach in that case is simple: What happens if the legislative body that passed the law in the first place turns around and changes it before it is ever implemented? Why waste the court's time on something like that?
Thanks, Orange. I’m honored to see some great discussion and debate on this thread — and even most of those who don’t quite understand what I’m getting at probably have more brains than I do. LOL.
Bingo v
the kneepad crew spinning this are liars. Roberts could have easily sided w Kennedy, Scalia Alito and Roberts that neither TJE commerce clause or the tax power can force as citizen into commerce.
He failed.
FU GWB
FUJR
FUBO
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