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Obamacare stands
drudge ^ | 28 Jun 2012 | drudge

Posted on 06/28/2012 7:29:13 AM PDT by for-q-clinton

Damn!!!!


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To: kevao

Like most Tea Partiers, I have not and will not send money, make calls, post signs for Romney.

If however Romney is smart and wants to win, he will tap into the outrage that this will bring and make this at least his second campaign issue.


61 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:45 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: The Sons of Liberty
The fix was in from the start!

Agree fully ... Sad day.

62 posted on 06/28/2012 7:57:12 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Jedidah

I think how they slipped around that is ... the mandate is not a tax, but the PENALTY if you don’t follow the mandate is a tax.

Extremely shaky reasoning IMO. If you follow this logic, then legal penalties of any sort are a ‘tax’. So taxes are penalties ... penalties for making a certain amount of money.


63 posted on 06/28/2012 7:57:24 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: hoos30
Can’t wait to see Romney argue against ACA now, since it was based on the Mass law. His only fig leaf was the constitutionality. Now that that’s been striped away, he’ll look like John Kerry; he was for it before he was against it!

While you're busy preening others of us are figuring out how to save our country.

64 posted on 06/28/2012 7:58:12 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Lorianne
I think how they slipped around that is ... the mandate is not a tax, but the PENALTY if you don’t follow the mandate is a tax.

If it walks and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

65 posted on 06/28/2012 7:58:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: freekitty

Obviously you did not see the Ginsberg interview. I knew this was coming and everyone else should have, she gave the signal to all the dems.


66 posted on 06/28/2012 7:58:36 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: GlockThe Vote

Like father like son: The first Bush gave us Souter; the second Bush gave us Roberts. The gifts that keep on giving The nextr failure of conservatism will occur when all these so-called Republicans will abandon their pledge to repeal Obamacare. It won’t happen EVER even if the GOP takes control of the House, Senate, and POTUS.


67 posted on 06/28/2012 7:58:56 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: rogue yam
If George Washington was here he'd slap your face for saying that!

If George Washington was here, he'd either muster troops for another revolution, or seeing the vast tech superiority possessed by the tyrants, find another country to settle.

68 posted on 06/28/2012 7:59:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: Jedidah

Yes, it shows Obama lied, and not only implemented the largest tax increase in history but also one that by design soaks people with incomes substantially below his promised $200,000 income floor.

This ruling also clearly indicates that the court, with near unanimity, sees limitations on the application of the Commerce Clause. This opens the door to a lot of other constitutional challenges.

Finally, I’d expect a new challenge based on the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protections clause, since the Obama Healthcare Tax must be applied in a decidedly disperate manner.


69 posted on 06/28/2012 7:59:43 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: for-q-clinton

OBAMA’S HEALTH-CARE OVERHAUL UPHELD BY U.S. SUPREME COURT

5-4 decisions, with Roberts joining the court’s liberals.

Court says federal government can’t threaten to withhold money from states that don’t fully comply on Medicaid extension

CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS SAYS MANDATE IS NOT A VALID EXERCISE OF CONGRESS’ POWER UNDER COMMERCE CLAUSE AND NECESSARY AND PROPER CLAUSE

HEALTH LAW’S MEDICAID EXPANSION LIMITED BY U.S. SUPREME COURT -RTRS

ROBERTS, JOINED BY TWO JUSTICES, SAYS MEDICAID EXPANSION VIOLATES CONSTITUTION -RTRS

FOUR JUSTICES DISSENT, SAYING THE PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT GOES BEYOND -RTRSCONGRESSIONAL POWERS UNDER CONSTITUTION -RTRS

ScotusBlog conclusion: So the mandate is constitutional

The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government’s power to terminate states’ Medicaid funds is narrowly read

The ACA is upheld as a tax, not a penalty

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/obamas-health-care-overhaul-upheld-us-supreme-court


70 posted on 06/28/2012 7:59:49 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: for-q-clinton

so...will THIS be the final kick in the @$$ the sleeping drunk needs?????

we the people: the original signers @ the con-con...(politicians)

wee the sheeple: as 0’pinhead refers to us...

Semper Watching!
*****


71 posted on 06/28/2012 8:00:04 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: parisa

Re: This proves people have lost control over their government. It’s all in the hands of power players

Leahy is quoted as saying “no one questions our authority”


72 posted on 06/28/2012 8:00:19 AM PDT by jesseam
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To: for-q-clinton

Heh, so it turns out Roberts is the same kind of Democrat faggot as Souter.
Oh well... guess Congress will actually have to do something.


73 posted on 06/28/2012 8:00:49 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Jeff Head
They didn't write new law. They ruled based on the government's position once they got into court, that the mandate was a tax and therefore within their power. Obama (and all the Dems) has insisted that it was NOT a tax b/c they knew we could hang that around their heads but when it got into court, their lawyers argued that it was, in fact, a tax. Greta Van Susteren was in court in FL for one of the appeals court cases and heard them argue it was a tax.
So- bottom line- the mandate is a “penalty” that can be levied as a tax but is not constitutional under the commerce clause.
74 posted on 06/28/2012 8:00:55 AM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Mrs.Z
Like most Tea Partiers, I have not and will not send money, make calls, post signs for Romney.

My observation is that most tea partiers are less stupid than you.

75 posted on 06/28/2012 8:00:55 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Jeff Head

They didn’t say the mandate was a tax, they said the penalty for following the mandate is a tax. Slippery way around.


76 posted on 06/28/2012 8:02:06 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: for-q-clinton

If it is a tax, than the court cannot make a ruling on the Constitutionality of the tax (because of the Anti-Injunction Act) until the tax is actually imposed in 2014.

Since Obamacare is now considered a tax, and if it remains on the books until 2014, I would presume that the issue of a mandated purchase can be re-addressed once someone actually has to pay out any money (as a tax) to forego insurance.

It will be harder to unravel this mess by then, but the court challenges are not over.


77 posted on 06/28/2012 8:03:18 AM PDT by kidd
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To: for-q-clinton

John Roberts will go down in infamy as forever tied to the likes of Elena Kagan, Sotomayer, Ginsburg and Breyer.

Mary, Mother of God, pray for us.


78 posted on 06/28/2012 8:03:32 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: for-q-clinton

Justice Roberts - the new boogieman for the Tea Party. Haha, I can see the signs now.

There’s more to this story (IMO) on why Roberts is voting the way he is........wonder if we’ll ever know what it is.

Meanwhile, if we want this bill repealed, we know what we have to do this November (and leading up to it).


79 posted on 06/28/2012 8:04:18 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: fatnotlazy

The America I was promised as a kid was just revoked. The America my father fought for was just destroyed.


80 posted on 06/28/2012 8:04:51 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (;'()
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