Posted on 06/21/2012 2:58:37 AM PDT by Perdogg
Today the court is handing down decisions, possibly in the Arizona Immigration Law case.
Make your Prediction on:
1. Az Immigration law
2a. Heathcare Mandate
2b. Heathcare Servability
3. Stolen Valor Act
I’ll copy/paste for those that can’t get in:
10:01
Amy:
First opinion is in Southern Union.
10:01
Amy:
Justice Sotomayor has opinion. The rule of Apprendi v. NJ applies to the imposition of criminal fines. The First Circuit is reversed. The vote is 6-3.
10:01
Amy:
Justice Breyer dissents, joined by Kennedy and Alito.
10:02
Amy:
We have at least one more opinion.
10:02
Amy:
Southern Union was about whether a jury needed to find facts leading to the imposition of a higher criminal fine.
10:02
Kali:
Our case page for Southern Union is here. I will link to the opinion once it’s up on the Court’s website.
10:03
Amy:
To answer a commenter, you may not have been waiting for Southern Union, but Southern Union was probably waiting for Southern Union.
10:04
Amy:
Yes, to answer another commenter, no opinions from Justice Kagan today.
10:04
Amy:
No majority opinions, at least.
10:05
Kali:
Apologies if you’re having trouble with the case page not loading; there are 22,000 people on the live blog right now. If you can figure our how to take turns it may load faster...
10:05
Amy:
Knox v. SEIU, 10-1121. Opinion by Alito.
10:06
Amy:
The Ninth Circuit is reversed. Justice Sotomayor concurs in the judgment, joined by Ginsburg. It appears to be 7-2; Breyer dissented, joined by Kagan.
10:06
Kali:
Here’s a link to the opinion in Southern Union: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-94a1b2.pdf
10:06
Amy:
The Court rules that the case is not moot, first. It then rules on the merits: the union’s treatment of nonmembers who had opted out when they got notice of the dues ran afoul of the First Amendment.
10:06 Amy:
This is not the final opinion. We have at least one more.
10:07
Amy:
To answer another question, yes, when you become the Chief Justice you automatically become the most senior Justice and get to go last with opinions, even if you have not been on the Court as long as some other Justices.
Knox VS. SEIU is actually a HUGE Decision that hits directly at Union/Democrat Revenue streams, especially in California.
But, you won’t be hearing about it on the evening news tonite.
10:08
Amy:
I think that the sign that there is another opinion is very high-tech — like another box of opinions waiting to be released at the Public Information Office.
10:09
Kali:
The opinion in Knox is up on the Court’s website: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/10-1121c4d6.pdf
10:10
Amy:
The physical copies of the opinions are released as they are announced in the Courtroom. The Justices read summaries of their opinions (not the same as the syllabus that gets printed) as they are released.
LOL Dude don't do that to me for reals. :D
Yeah. I fell for it too.
Sponsored by the Department of Redundancy Department. ;^)
10:12
Amy:
I believe that the oral summaries are released much later in the year, which is why there have been requests to have the audio/video released on the same day as health care. Those requests are unlikely to be granted.
10:13
Amy:
Lyle is not in the Courtroom. He is in the pressroom and gets the hard copies of the opinions as they are released and then comes to the phone to talk to me.
10:13
Amy:
Just to clarify — there isn’t video at the Court. People would like for there to be video. There will be no video.
Live blogging SCOTUS
9:58
Amy:
The Court will not announce a list of which opinions we will get today. We will find out one at a time. The Court starts with the most junior Justice who has an opinion and then goes in reverse seniority, ending with the Chief Justice.
Continuing updates (scroll to bottom of screen)
http://scotusblog.wpengine.com/
( hope it’s soon.. late night .. need more sleep .. Lord, in Your abiding mercy, please preserve our dear nation as intended, confound our enemies )
Redundancy can be quite catchy as well as contagious.
10:14
Amy:
Here comes Lyle to tell us that Justice Breyer is reading from his dissent in Knox. That’s why we have no additional news for you regarding the next opinion.
10:15
Amy:
We don’t know what the next opinion is. We expect another one, which would not be from either Justice Sotomayor or Justice Kagan, because the Court goes in order of reverse seniority and the Knox case was by Justice Alito. So it will be Alito or one of the more senior Justices.
Tom:
The union dues case may be quite significant — there is not only the dissent but a narrower concurring opinion that says that “[t]he majority thus decides, for the very first time, that the First Amendment does require an opt-in system in some circumstances [for union dues]: the levying of a special assessment or dues increase.”
10:16
Amy:
We don’t know how many more we are getting today, just that Lyle has told us that there will be at least one more. And he’s been doing this for over fifty years, so I trust him.
10:15
Tom:
The union dues case may be quite significant — there is not only the dissent but a narrower concurring opinion that says that “[t]he majority thus decides, for the very first time, that the First Amendment does require an opt-in system in some circumstances [for union dues]: the levying of a special assessment or dues increase.”
That Michigan union chick must be very, very disappointed
Amen
You see Justice Breyer re Knox recent post at live blogging SCOTUS above. Here’s the case:
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Supreme Court Soon to Rule on Knox v. SEIU
SEIU Political Fundraising Mechanism Operates Unconstitutionally, Says Horace Cooper of National Center for Public Policy Research
Washington, DC - The United States Supreme Court will shortly issue a ruling in Knox v. SEIU, a California case about the misuse of compulsory union dues and the subject of a new National Policy Analysis paper by National Center for Public Policy Research Adjunct Fellow Horace Cooper.
Rest
http://www.nationalcenter.org/PR-Knox_v_SEIU_061812.html
10:18
Tom:
So on the majority’s rationale, the Court is 5-4 in the union dues case, divided on ideological lines. But in the result it is 6-3.
On Twitter it says Breyer is reading. They go in order of least to most senior, so justices more senior thn Breyer should be next? Assuming Twitter person is correct...
I love it and Sotomayor seems to be showing loyalty to Roberts and voted with the majority. Kagan is another Ginsburg.
SEIU loses 7-2.
I know it was before 6am
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