Posted on 06/13/2012 2:03:43 PM PDT by MindBender26
In Case You Don't Like Romney...
Columnist Andrew McCarthy gives us what probably is the most important question regarding the upcoming presidential election …
“If Romney wins the nomination, as seems very likely, I will enthusiastically support his candidacy. For my friends who may have hesitation on that score, I’d just ask you to keep four things in mind:
1.. Justice Scalia just turned 78
2.. Justice Kennedy will turn 78 later this year
3.. Justice Breyer will be 76 in August
4.. Justice Ginsburg turned 81 about a week ago and has had cancer twice.
Whoever we elect as president in November is almost certainly going to choose at least one and maybe more new members of the Supreme Court — in addition to hundreds of other life-tenured federal judges, all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come.
If you don’t think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, I think you’re smokin’ something funky….”
So for anybody who is thinking of not voting because your favorite didn’t get nominated, or writing in a candidate who can't win ... just imagine this possibility:
'SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ERIC HOLDER'
Did that get your attention!
I have 450 posts in that time.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Back at Post #470 you said you had 500 posts...
Now at #570 you have 450...
In the last 100 posts you seem to have dropped some stitches errr posts...
Are you sure youre all there ???
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Probably not. For reasons that I don't understand, some appear to believe that insulting us will convince us to vote for Romney. Is that likely? Not for me.
No. He gone now.
Truly, I do not understand why this proven failure of a tactic is used afresh each week here on FR. I don’t have a clue why they do this over and over and...
Ain’t gonna work next week either.
I don’t understand it either. Imho, it’s a bullying tactic.
I saw the response, and it's most appropriate (though many probably aren't old enough to connect with the names, Koufax and Drysdale).
I've used the 'team jersey' analogy many times myself, and still think it's dead on. Romney's got a record that any liberal Democrat would be proud of. In fact, he pushed through more liberal policies in Massachusetts than most Democrats would have dared.
Those who are familiar with Sun Tzu's work, Art of War, understand why that worked. If you want your enemy to stand down and go to sleep, simply infiltrate his camp with someone who champions their cause, while implementing your plans.
You win the war with little to no resistance, and without firing a shot.
Oh OK
You had to leave
well
Bye Bye
...Unless someone discerns the ruse during battle but before the war is over. The possibilities of Deus ex machina are such encouraging and hopeful things!
Now, let me illustrate the point. I will cat my vote for whichever Republican is the final nominee because I do not believe we will have free elections in 2016 if we allow the commie bastard to have four more years of his thugocracy, with goons like Eric 'the slickliar'Holder and the Sotomeyers and lesbian thugs like Kagan as SCOTUS nominees, with the complete collapse of the monetary system of America and planned decimation of the military. But that's just me. I will cast my vote in opposition to Obama so we the people may remove him from power. But if I were to vote for Virgil Goose or Tom Hoefling that would not be a vote for Obama, it just wouldn't be a vote for the Republican nominee.
Yes I just saw that...
Im slowly making my way through the thread...
Now, let me illustrate the point. I will cast my vote for whichever Republican is the final nominee because I do not believe we will have free elections in 2016 if we allow the commie bastard to have four more years of his thugocracy, with goons like Eric 'the slickliar'Holder and the Sotomeyers and lesbian thugs like Kagan as SCOTUS nominees, with the complete collapse of the monetary system of America and planned decimation of the military. But that's just me. I will cast my vote in opposition to Obama so we the people may remove him from power. But if I were to vote for Virgil Goose or Tom Hoefling that would not be a vote for Obama, it just wouldn't be a vote for the Republican nominee.
Insult you?
Moi?
If asking if you support the more or less liberal candidate in any political race is insulting; so be it.
All of this reminds me of Paul Harvey’s sage advice to us (then) young reporters: “If someone claims to be upset with or bothered by your questions, what they’re really upset with is thier own answers to your
questions.”
To who? As what? And why?
In 1992, Perot got into the race between HW Bush and Bill Clinton. Even though I was disgusted with HW and his betraying conservative principle with moderate "compassion," I was even madder at the folks who voted for Perot. That damned Clinton won just the same -- on a 43% plurality!
In retrospect, I have concluded that indeed, I and other conservatives owe a debt of gratitude to those Perot voters because Clinton, opposed by a full 57% of voters, entered office with a "vote" (ha ha!) of NO CONFIDENCE. Well over half of Americans rejected Clinton's lies and rejected Clinton himself. In spite of a sycophantic MSM, two years later Clinton got his ass creamed in the mid-terms and our blessed Republican Revolution happened and did much good for our country.
Would that Republican Revolution have happened if Clinton had won with a majority of Americans behind him? Would that Republican Revolution have happened if HW had been re-elected?
I doubt it.
The fact is that, unless a miracle happens, regardless of how we vote we WILL have as our next president a leftist, authoritarian, amoral statist. PERIOD.
Conservatives in Congress are the ones who must truly be doing the hard work to move this country right and FIGHT AGAINST the creeping stranglehold of statism in cap-and-trade global warming (far and away THE most crucial non-social issue endangering us), nationalized health care, the gay agenda, activist judges, and taxpayer-funded on-demand abortion.
They, NOT the president, are our true hope for turning this country right.
Romney says he would overturn Obamacare (although he is figuratively and historically its "father"), and he says he has reformed on abortion.
In the meantime, he is certainly 100 percent ON BOARD with the "green" agenda whose inevitable mission is to control both energy and food production and consumption (for the health of the planet, don't you know!).
That love of "Going Green" and Romney's record (with the internet it's easy to do independent research in news stories) indicates that he has all the arrogance of a liberal, which means that probabilities are nearly certain that he regards conservatives with a condescension akin to thinking of them as a cross between willful children and neanderthals, as liberals do.
We already know what Obama is, although many forget that he is fallible, opposed, and even loathed by an ever growing number of Americans. Odds are very high that the next Congress will be a Republican one, with lots of new coservatives and fewer moderates. Regardless of how fearful Obama appears, he is a scarecrow and that Congress will have the power to fight and dominate him. He is NOT Oz the Omnipotent -- he's a narcissist that more and more people are finding despicable.
Conservatives have ONE JOB in Congress, and that is to halt the liberal agenda.
They will be fighting against the presidential administration's advance of that agenda no matter whether Obama or Romney wins. So the best, the ONLY, way I can use my vote in the presidential race to HELP conservatives in that battle is to vote official, on-the-ballot third party. I know that the candidate I vote for will lose (unless there's a miracle, and they DO happen!), but I also know my vote WILL be tallied in the final count.
If enough folks are disgusted with both Obama AND Romney, as it certainly appears vast numbers ARE, and IF THEY USE THEIR VOTE, they can create a scenario where the the next president wins on a plurality even worse than Clinton's. Ideally, I'd like to see enough people reject Obama, and enough people reject Romney, and instead vote FOR someone else, that the victor gets in on as low a plurality as possible. If the winner got in on a 34% plurality, that would mean 64% of Americans, two out of three who voted, thought he stunk.
And that would put the next president on the defensive, make him weak, and increase the political ammunition of his enemies both within his own party AND in the opposition party.
Whether it's Obama or Romney, the next president WILL have and push a liberal agenda. Our conservatives in Congress will have a much better chance of stopping that agenda if that president is someone soundly and publicly rejected by the majority of We The People.
” We can’t expect the Americans to jump from capitlism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism, until they finally awake to find they have communism. “
Nikita Khrushchev, 1959
Romney & Obama both rock on “severe socialism’ and both count their views, openly, as being Progressive, and following these pronouncements with action, one in Massachusetts seeding the ground for the other to seed nationally, socialism/Marxism.
Idiots of use to these two communists find all this acceptable, because one says he’s “conservative”.
Conservatives are not progressive. Ever.
Statement 1: “And it reeks of hypocrisy because none of them will admit they are voting for Obama, which it’s obvious that they are.”
Statement 2: “It’s totally weird. I’ve never said one non-conservative thing.”
For many conservatives, myself included, your Statement 2 is directly contradicted by your Statement 1.
How is it “conservative” to willfully misrepresent people you disagree with? Conservatism works because first of all it honors truth-telling. You can’t hang on to the timeless virtues, such as the reverence for life, the wisdom of constitutionally limited government, the honor of keeping faith with your allies, etc., unless you begin with honesty.
Yet what you have done, in a single stroke, is accuse everyone here who disagrees with you of intentionally saying one thing while thinking or believing another. You call it hypocrisy, but that’s exactly what hypocrisy is, an intentional misrepresentation of one’s true belief. Are you really ready to claim you know, with “divine” certainty, that everyone here who can’t or won’t vote for Romney secretly believes they are supporting Obama, but just won’t say so? Really?
I am slack-jawed with amazement. And here lil ol me thought I was just imitating my Savior by saying no to political power if gaining that power would injure my relationship with God. I must’ve missed the memo. Because if you say it’s so, then it must surely be the case that obeying God will give evil the win. Huh? Um, maybe that’s in my other Bible. Or not.
Point is, you can’t speak for the conscience of another person, no more than I can for you. Like Paul says, everyone stands or falls before their own master. I get that you’re having a hard time understanding why some here do not see the urgency of the situation the same way you do. But that really doesn’t give you the right to do the unconservative thing and bring false accusations. Defamation, manipulation through guilt and fear, isolating and freezing, these are tactics of the left. We are supposed to be better than that.
So, if you truly find it “weird” that some are questioning your conservative values, it might help if you back off the false accusations and the mind-reading. Conservatives, at least in theory, are more comfortable with respectful, truthful, rational conversation that actually gets at the root issues. Anything else just doesn’t “feel” conservative. Not to me anyway. Hence the weirdness.
For example, what I never seem to see (and my apologies if I missed it) is any ABO proponent attempting to show by logic and reason that maybe it is not a crime against God to voluntarily empower a teacher of brazenly anti-Christian falsehoods. But then again, maybe they know that’s not a winning argument, so they resort to peer pressure tactics, false accusations any reasonable person would resent. I don’t know. I’m not a mind-reader.
But I do know this. Such tactics do not work, they do not change minds, and they certainly do not advance either the cause or the timeless virtues of conservatism. We are deeply stressed among ourselves over the two towering evils set before us, but we really still need to support and understand each other, and find what common ground we can. I feel a Rodney King moment coming on ….
Moi?
If asking if you support the more or less liberal candidate in any political race is insulting; so be it.
All of this reminds me of Paul Harvey’s sage advice to us (then) young reporters: “If someone claims to be upset with or bothered by your questions, what they’re really upset with is thier own answers to your questions.”
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Paul Harvey had no glimpse of what those who claim to be journalists would become.
I gotz da beast...
How do ya want him cooked ???
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