Posted on 06/11/2012 12:58:32 PM PDT by EveningStar
A 59-year-old man admitted smacking his wife “upside the head” after she “used the Lord’s name in vain” during an argument Thursday night in the couple’s Florida home.
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I beg to differ, the law is many shades of gray. It's totalitarianism that is black and white with zero tolerance. Not for me, no thank you.
That makes sense, but the cops still through him in jail. No jail for blasphemy, tho. Caesar will still collect the money from the both of them, a secular tax on the blasphemous and vicious.
What are you babbling about? Your whole response approaches that of a non sequitur, but I fail to find the comedy.
Florida? - Jeb Bush?
Well, it was a good few thousand to run through the legal system for what we both look back on now as a silly matter that should have never seen the light of day. She used the cops against me like so many anecdotal stories you have heard. I chose not to divorce because I was a child of divorce, and it was me who kept the family together. My childrens’ mental health and financial future were too important to me, so I just put up with some undesirable behavior such as continual disrespect.
You hear that men lose their 2A right during these events, and that is true. The police raid your house and confiscate all weapons; quite intrusive. The women also lose their 2A right because the house is cleared of all guns including hers. In fact, she was caught with two loaded weapons in her car during the incident (which is a crime here, carrying a loaded weapon without a permit), but she was not arrested. Go figure. The police just believed whatever she told them. Your family (wife and kids) is then left in a house with no self defense capability. You also lose your property rights as you are ordered to stay away for what could be months. You are alienated from your children in the name of ‘safety’. I petitioned to lift this order immediately, but due to the usual bureacratic stupidity, the petition was ‘lost’. After rattling some cages, the judge finally said, ‘oh, you could have gone back a few months ago if I had known about this petition’.
All charges are usually dropped in these cases because the spouse usually is about to lose the gravy train. The police just want to do a SWAT raid on your house to play with their toys and steal weapons, the lawyers make a big chunk of money, and the judge gets to lecture someone on how he thinks your family should run.
The VAWA (google it) has caused a legal industry to flourish, but did it solve problems?
A non sequitur?...that the house was hers as well as his and he had no right to abuse her in it? Listen genius, I don't know what school you learned your logic at but it appears you are due a refund.
Your arguments are so bizarre that I suspect you are a trouble-making lib/plant on this forum. I don't have time for illogical pests of your nature....be gone pest.
So, just to get this straight.. you`re saying here there are instances in which smacking one`s wife upside the head might be appropriate.
If my daughter`s husband hit her, there`d be no need for cops or reports (aside from the missing persons variety). And I am dead-on serious about that. Any “man” who abuses his wife is not a man at all.
Fifty years ago, the Common Sense was a 'king in his castle'. Over the span of this time, the progressives have programed the masses to think a certain way which severely limits males' rights. That's a Great Leap forward in totalitarian thinking, not fairness. It's politically correct and I see you've bitten hook, line and sinker. The law is shades of gray but not in certain, politically correct, "special" cases, oddly where the cops, the legal system and the jails make tons of money.
The USA has the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world, currently 40% higher than Russia. So have pride in our legal/incarceration system, Earthdweller. I think it a national disgrace and, quite frankly, our criminal justice personnel conduct themselves much more poorly than the citizens they arrest.
And you certainly should be within your Common Sense rights to protect and defend the honor of your daughter. However, you;d certainly break the law and, if caught, would go to prison, not jail.
Why would all these laws against violence towards women begin? Because of a significant problem of violence against women mostly by the male population who served in WWII. Almost all males in the USA served in WWII. A lot of these males abused their wives because that was an accepted behavior. Accepted by society, the legal system and religions. So, these guys, these heros of WWII, were actually the perpetuators of domestic violence; there's no other demographic.
I submit these heros were "men" even though they unfortunately beat their women. The law has changed that since the 50's and 60's, but it doesn't take away from the fact that many of these very strong and courageous men promoted domestic abuse. They were "men" and courageous men to boot.
Our society has been reprogrammed. A Great Leap Forward. However, the shades of innocence or guilt contain no Common Sense anymore. Just Zero Tolerance and corresponding huge revenue for the state.
What is striking in your case is how many Constitutional rights were lost by the invocation of a "special" law against a particular, "special", crime.
Thank you for your answer and for your candor.
Well, that’s an interesting spin... attributing the abuse problem in previous generations to experiences in WWII. I have known in my life many WWII veterans, combat and not, and not one of them has raised a hand to his wife. The fact it was “accepted behavior” in some quarters doesn’t legitimize it, just as the concept of homosexual “marriage” bears no greater legitimacy than it did in the 1950s.
You’re giving rationale to this type of behavior, regardless of how you might try to express it. That type of approach to marital resolution would be more welcome in a hellhole like Pakistan.
No I am not. I am reviewing the development of the law from a half-century ago to now and specifically attempting to disprove your statement about "men". That's it. I said nothing about other countries, nor Pakistan, nor homos for that matter. Specifically about your comment about men.
It doesn't matter whether you nor I have any knowledge of abuse surrounding the specific WWII veterans we have known in the past. It is the only fundamental demographic of men upon which the laws of change have been built.
Ditto. that is one of the most asinine things I’ve read in a while, and I’ve seen a lot of asinine statements lately.
That’s a disgusting slur against the brave men who served in WWII.
Thanks, mnehring.
No it is not, as my observation only includes a portion of those great men.
Domestic violence law changes were made upon the behavior of a certain male demographic of that time. It is not a slur upon the whole group and I specifically state the men were brave, courageous. But some of them were flawed and upon that demographic, the domestic violence laws were changed, mostly for the better but now morphing into a revenue stream for the state and not necessarily helping the families in peril.
What is disgusting is your use of patriotism to negate a fact you obviously do not want to consider. Last refuge and all that.
Ahh, consensus has been reached amongst the group think. Thank you.
Attitudes like what I’ve seen expressed here, that there is somehow justification to assault another person, is exactly why I not only encourage women to get take classes on and get their handgun carry license, but I also teach them.
There is no legal or moral justification for assaulting another person, period.
What an asinine statement, advocating spousal abuse is not Christian, God did not put you in the position to judge blasphemy, that’s his job.
Perhaps moving to Pakistan would be more appropriate for you.
Fifty years ago, if a man hit his wife, her brother or father would make sure that so-called man would never consider hitting her again.
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