Posted on 06/04/2012 2:40:56 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Zimmerman's defense team will file a motion today for a second bond hearing. While Mr. Zimmerman acknowledges that he allowed his financial situation to be misstated in court, the defense will emphasize that in all other regards, Mr. Zimmerman has been forthright and cooperative. He gave several voluntary statements to the police, re-enacted the events for them, gave voice exemplars for comparison and stayed in ongoing contact with the Department of Law Enforcement during his initial stage of being in hiding. He has twice surrendered himself to law enforcement when asked to do so, and this should demonstrate that Mr. Zimmerman is not a flight risk. He has also complied with all conditions of his release, including curfew, keeping in touch with his supervising officers, and maintaining his GPS monitoring, without violation.
The audio recordings of Mr. Zimmerman's phone conversations while in jail make it clear that Mr. Zimmerman knew a significant sum had been raised by his original fundraising website. We feel the failure to disclose these funds was caused by fear, mistrust, and confusion. The gravity of this mistake has been distinctly illustrated, and Mr. Zimmerman understands that this mistake has undermined his credibility, which he will have to work to repair.
At the point of the bond hearing, Mr. Zimmerman had been driven from his home and neighborhood, could not go to work, his wife could not go back to a finish her nursing degree, his mother and father had been driven from their home, and he had been thrust into the national spotlight as a racist murderer by factions acting with their own agendas. None of those allegations have been supported by the discovery released to date, yet the hatred continues.
It must be noted that, when attempting to interpret George's actions regarding the funds, that he did disclose the existence of the funds five days after the bond hearing, during his first conversation with the defense about the fund. When the defense team learned of the funds, we disclosed this to the court and to the State Attorney's Office, and the money was transferred to the Legal Defense Fund which is now independently managed.
Of the original $204,000 raised by Mr. Zimmerman's fund, approximately $150,000 was transferred to the Legal Defense Fund. $30,000 was used to make the complicated transition from private life in Sanford, FL to a life in hiding as a defendant in a high-profile court case. The balance of approximately $20,000 was kept liquid to provide living expenses for the first several months as the legal process unfolds.
Since the independently managed Legal Defense Fund was established on May 3, supporters have contributed more than $37,000. Of this amount, $2,000 has been designated for household expenses. Less than $300 has been designated for fund management and fees associated with maintaining the conditions of the bond. None of the funds have yet to be allocated to legal expenses. Neither Mr. Zimmerman or the defense team has direct access to the independently managed Legal Defense Fund.
You sound like those who hung Tom.
How are you proposing that Trayvon knew about a gun? Or are you saying that the very EXISTENCE of George Zimmerman was a threat to Trayvon’s life?
What did Zimmerman do that threatened Trayvon Martin’s life?
Points well-taken.
I got my daughter to the pool and she changed her mind. sigh. Woman’s prerogative, I guess...
Here's a thought...how many times have you asked those freepers who swear that martin attacked zimmermen without provocation to provide proof? Why would you just accept that as true?,P>
Bear in mind these few things that we know to be true...
Martin had no record of violence, suspension from school but no violence. There is a video of him boxing with a friend but that is exactly what I did as a teen and what my son did.
Zimmerman has at least two incidents that created legal records (he interfered physically with a LEO doing his job and he bounced his girlfriend around).
Zimmerman was actively trying to close the gap between himself and martin - he got out of his car and followed.
Martin took action to avoid confrontation - he ran away from the strange grown man who was following him.
The question to ask is what proof is there that martin went from active avoidance to "assault with intent to kill" and when did zimmerman go from armed pursier to victim?
I’m asking you to give me a credible explanation for what life-threatening danger prompted Trayvon to bang Zimmerman’s head on the concrete - a life-threatening danger that left no injuries on Trayvon’s body throughout a fight that lasted several minutes (IIRC) before Zimmerman fired the gun.
At the point that Trayvon smashed Zimnmerman’s head on the concrete, what was threatening Trayvon’s life?
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Oh, maybe the stranger who had been following him had a gun...you know, the one that the stranger killed him with.
You’re a hoot! ... Bwhahahaha, you agitprops are so clueless, exposing your agenda so easily. Thanks for proving my assertion written to Butter de above. You must be so disappointed that you can’t stir up trouble to trott back to your homies. You poor thing, bless your little heart you just can’t find anyone to smack you around today. Now run along, apologist for racism and hate mongering. We aren’t buying your tactics aimed at fomenting an argument. You won’t be able to stir up racial divide at FR because you’re too irrational to follow the discussions. You’ve outed yourself. so here’s a big F A I L for your efforts.
How did Zimmerman threaten Trayvon’s life, in your scenario?
How do you propose that Trayvon knew Zimmerman had a gun?
Trayvon had arms that could have been just as deadly as a gun. Of course, Zimmerman wouldn’t know that they were deadly unless and until Trayvon made a move with them. Same thing holds true for a gun. Trayvon wouldn’t know there was a deadly gun unless it had been pulled on him.
Are you saying that Zimmerman pulled the gun on Trayvon before Trayvon pounded Z’s head on the concrete?
At your link I notice the tattoos on Trayvon, especially the one for his mother on his wrist: “Sybrina”. Why didn’t the ME list these tattoos in his autopsy report??? I would think that they would be material for identification, if not other possibilities. The ME also listed his height at a mere 5-11 when he is clearly taller according to other viable sources.
He did list them, under "Other Identifying Features / Tattoos"
I assume there are photos as well.
-- The ME also listed his height at a mere 5-11 when he is clearly taller according to other viable sources. --
5'11" no shoes. 158 pounds, naked.
But Shellie offered to get her brother-in-law on the phone at the original bail hearing to tell the court exactly how much money was in the PayPal account, a fact that the prosecution conveniently left out of their bail revocation motion. I don't believe that it was an innocent mistake on the prosecution's part. Neither the court, nor the prosecution took her up on that offer.
If I was Shellie, I wouldn't have given an estimate either, since the amount changed daily.
The state put that part of the bail hearing in the record, with the motion to revoke bail. Pages 4 & 5 of the 5 page excerpt; pages 26 and 27 of the official transcript have that offer by Shellie.
I agree, that offer makes it harder to reach a finding that Shellie was hiding anything. She has a good argument that she assumed the court wanted an exact amount (say within a hundred or a thousand dollars), and she didn't have it - but she knew who could get it, and would get it on request.
-- If I was Shellie, I wouldn't have given an estimate either, since the amount changed daily. --
She could have said she didn't know, and couldn't even estimate the current amount, but last she looked it was blah blah dollars. I know she wasn't asked that, but if she gave an answer like that, she couldn't be accused of hiding anything.
I don't know that I would have done any different from what Shellie did, under the circumstances. But she has this Q&A to explain, too:
Q: And you mentioned also, in terms of the ability of your husband to make a bond amount, that you all had no money. Is that correct?
A: To my knowledge, that's correct.
Symbol with letters - right arm
Letters - left wrist
There is a picture of a Trayvon Martin being shown around with a tattoo on his upper left shoulder. The ME either missed it or this is a picture of a different Trayvon Martin.
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Are you saying he didn't?
Hundreds of thousands of law-abiding citizens go about their business every day while carrying firearms. They threaten no one.
Your assertion that Zimmerman was “threatening Trayvon’s life” by having a gun is crap, just like your trolling on these threads.
Don’t waste your time bz. Trust me on this one.
****Yeah, but this not-so law-abiding citizen (history of violence) was not going about his business - he was following a teenager who had done nothing -- and somehow ended up killing him. And, millions of teenagers walk to the store and home every day without attacking anybody or without being followed and then somehow killed.****
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Your assertion that Zimmerman was “threatening Trayvon’s life” by having a gun is crap, just like your trolling on these threads.
****My asertion? Butterdezillion asked for a speculative scenario - I gave her one. I can't help it if you don't understand that.****
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BZ...by all means - let FreedomPoster do your thinking for you and steer clear -- I ask questions nobody here can answer -- can't have that.
****Yeah, but this not-so law-abiding citizen (history of violence) was not going about his business - he was following a teenager who had done nothing -- and somehow ended up killing him. And, millions of teenagers walk to the store and home every day without attacking anybody or without being followed and then somehow killed.****
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Your assertion that Zimmerman was “threatening Trayvon’s life” by having a gun is crap, just like your trolling on these threads.
****My asertion? Butterdezillion asked for a speculative scenario - I gave her one. I can't help it if you don't understand that.****
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BZ...by all means - let FreedomPoster do your thinking for you and steer clear -- I ask questions nobody here can answer -- can't have that.
****Yeah, but this not-so law-abiding citizen (history of violence) was not going about his business - he was following a teenager who had done nothing -- and somehow ended up killing him. And, millions of teenagers walk to the store and home every day without attacking anybody or without being followed and then somehow killed.****
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Your assertion that Zimmerman was “threatening Trayvon’s life” by having a gun is crap, just like your trolling on these threads.
****My asertion? Butterdezillion asked for a speculative scenario - I gave her one. I can't help it if you don't understand that.****
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BZ...by all means - let FreedomPoster do your thinking for you and steer clear -- I ask questions nobody here can answer -- can't have that.
All you other bullshit is just that.
All you have to do is show proof that what you say is true...should be easy...why can't you do it?
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