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1 posted on 05/20/2012 6:32:21 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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No matter how you unite states, once joined they don’t like it when one or more of its members decide to walk away.


2 posted on 05/20/2012 6:35:19 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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Good riddance to both Greece and the Euro.


3 posted on 05/20/2012 6:37:26 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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What’s interesting though, stripped of the jargon, what the experts are cautioning is that _now_ isn’t the time to quit borrowing money, because of the crisis, that was caused by, you guessed it - borrowing money. It’s kinda wacky.


4 posted on 05/20/2012 6:37:53 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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About six months ago...I was reading through Greek medical problems within the economy. If you were on insulin and tried to pick up your monthly supply...most pharmacy groups couldn’t get the stuff via their normal channels, with Greek health care paying. So you...the customer who desperately needed insulin...had to go down put down around $100 to get the stuff ordered from France. It’d be delivered five days later, and you were ok....except whatever was free via the gov’t health care program...was no longer free, and you had to find a $100 somewhere in your limited budget to pay for what was free before.

My feeling is that of eleven million people in Greece...by next summer, at least 500k will have packed up and left the country. I also think that most banks will end up closing shop or consolidating. The tourism trade? For 2012, I’d predict half the tourism trade that you’d typically expect in Greece, and it likely continues through 2013. They really took the country and made it into some Banana republic.


6 posted on 05/20/2012 6:42:06 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Greece is a dry run for what is coming.


7 posted on 05/20/2012 6:43:56 AM PDT by ecomcon
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"Nightmare foretold if Greece heads for euro exit"

A harbinger of the future of Liberal America.

9 posted on 05/20/2012 6:52:27 AM PDT by chainsaw (Sarah Palin is still my first choice to save the USA. . .)
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Be interesting to see if the populace there riots against its lefty-regime, and to watch their reaction to it.


10 posted on 05/20/2012 6:53:21 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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It is interesting that the quotations of impending doom come from importers who see no future. Stipulating that business is facing huge problems, why do they not attempt to source from domestic sources.


11 posted on 05/20/2012 6:58:57 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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It seems to me that the people of Greece have chosen collapse over a little austerity. No one would give an inch so now they have to go the mile.


12 posted on 05/20/2012 7:01:22 AM PDT by tiki
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"this is just a foretaste of the nightmare of unrest, hunger and even anarchy that could engulf the debt-crippled nation United States if it is forced out of the euro the American people don't come to their senses--and fast!--and put an end to American decadence (also known as "Liberalism").

Its political machine--the Democrat Party--must be stopped.

17 posted on 05/20/2012 7:10:42 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout fire in a crowded theatre. It just has to be the truth. " J. Goldberg)
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"this is just a foretaste of the nightmare of unrest, hunger and even anarchy that could engulf the debt-crippled nation United States if it is forced out of the euro the American people don't come to their senses--and fast!--and put an end to American decadence (also known as "Liberalism").

Its political machine--the Democrat Party--must be stopped.

18 posted on 05/20/2012 7:10:42 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout fire in a crowded theatre. It just has to be the truth. " J. Goldberg)
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"this is just a foretaste of the nightmare of unrest, hunger and even anarchy that could engulf the debt-crippled nation United States if it is forced out of the euro the American people don't come to their senses--and fast!--and put an end to American decadence (also known as "Liberalism").

Its political machine--the Democrat Party--must be stopped.

19 posted on 05/20/2012 7:10:42 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout fire in a crowded theatre. It just has to be the truth. " J. Goldberg)
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If the American people had the good sense to elect a fiscally responsible President and Congress who would (1) abolish the capital gains tax, (2) abolish corporate taxes, (3) abolish inheritance taxes,(4) secure property rights, and (5) abolish all unnecessary regulations, foreign (and domestic) capital would flow into the United States like Niagara Falls!


22 posted on 05/20/2012 7:14:49 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout fire in a crowded theatre. It just has to be the truth. " J. Goldberg)
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If the American people had the good sense to elect a fiscally responsible President and Congress who would (1) abolish the capital gains tax, (2) abolish corporate taxes, (3) abolish inheritance taxes,(4) secure property rights, and (5) abolish all unnecessary regulations, foreign (and domestic) capital would flow into the United States like Niagara Falls!


23 posted on 05/20/2012 7:14:51 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout fire in a crowded theatre. It just has to be the truth. " J. Goldberg)
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But if they had that much sense, we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place.


26 posted on 05/20/2012 7:15:44 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout fire in a crowded theatre. It just has to be the truth. " J. Goldberg)
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Greece has a smaller GNP than Indiana. How can it cause all this trouble? Just let it go!


32 posted on 05/20/2012 7:29:41 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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“Watching Greece” should become a didactic exercise for all the other Western nations. It illustrates what can happen — or more correctly, what WILL happen - when socialism collapses and nations are forced to recover and reconstruct themselves “cold turkey”.


33 posted on 05/20/2012 7:45:43 AM PDT by Road Glide
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They should collect up all the money that’s left and go to Las Vegas and put it all on number 5.


40 posted on 05/20/2012 8:13:12 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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“A former finance minister, Yiannos Papantoniou, saw trouble ahead nearly a year ago...”

Why didn’t he see trouble ahead when he was Finance Minister and, no doubt, contributing to the problem ?


42 posted on 05/20/2012 8:24:13 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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Banker BS. The only reason Greece got bailouts because behind the scenes the EU and US bankers did not want to pay the price for making wrong bets on Greek bonds. So they spin the story that the world would come to an end if Greece defaults (just like TARP). Where did all the EU bailout money go? It went to the Greek banks so they can cover any money they owe EU banks. The people of Greece did not get any bailout except decades of austerity.
Iceland defaulted and went back to the Krona. Everything hit true bottom, prices adjusted to true value and investors are coming in. Iceland GDP is one of the few EU (former) that is increasing while most of the world is stagnating or contracting. We don’t hear about this in the MSM because the central banks and EU/US banks don’t want anyone to know except the bail me out or the economy will implode. This way affected nations will go to the central bankers and scream bailout and nations with the means to provide the bailout money think this is a necessary evil.
Greece should declare bankruptcy and return to the drachma. Greek people will suffer inflation and prices of assets will hit true bottom. Greek labor will be extremely cheap and foreign investors will come in to buy assets and even build factories and service industries to take advantage of the Greek low cost labor. Iceland already prove bankruptcy and going back to their national currency was not the end of the world. Only the EU advocates, central bankers and US/EU bankers don’t want it for their own political/financial selfish reasons.


43 posted on 05/20/2012 8:24:28 AM PDT by Fee
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