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Is Mitt Romney’s love for America a Mormon thing?
The Washington Post ^ | May 11, 2012 | Michelle Boorstein,

Posted on 05/13/2012 6:30:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

When it comes to American exceptionalism, Mitt Romney is going all in.

His book “No Apology: The Case for American Greatness” is a love song to the idea that this country merits “the protection of Providence” and has a singular “calling” to be a beacon for freedom. A major theme for him on the campaign trail is the nation’s divine destiny, a heritage Romney said has made him “stand a little taller, a little straighter” when overseas.

But what Romney doesn’t say is that, for followers of his made-in-America religion, Mormonism, exceptionalism isn’t political metaphor. It’s theology.

The faith’s sacred text, the Book of Mormon, describes the United States as “a land of promise . . . a land which is choice above all other lands.” It describes Jesus coming down from heaven, to America, and teaching to people there. Joseph Smith, Mormonism’s founder and prophet, quotes God as saying that he established the U.S. Constitution. Mormons’ Garden of Eden is in Missouri. Their version of the hajj begins in Upstate New York and ends in Illinois.

Other post-Reagan candidates may passionately preach beliefs like Romney’s, but he’s the only one who can say American exceptionalism is his religion.

Except he doesn’t.

.........Romney’s reticence on the subject of God and country makes him a typical Mormon. Persecuted by the government in the 1800s, Mormons grew wary of how to merge their faith with their love for the land it blesses....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: amexceptionalism; mormon; nationalism; romney
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To: Agamemnon

Kid theres nothoing wrong with my perspective

but theres a lot wrong with the liberal Willard Mitt Romney...

and theres nothing there that represents me as a Conservative...

If I voted for the cowardly bully Willard Mitt Romney I would be saying that I agreed with his
pro-abortion,
pro-same sex marriage,
anti-military,
anti-2nd Amendment
pro-global warming
pro-big government
pro-AMNESTY Bill
stances on the issues...

If as you allege, Willard Mitt Romney is so weak in character that he goes along so easily with ideas that are detrimental to decency and good government, then he is not fit to lead this country...

We need a man or woman who has a back bone and who will not roll over just to appease...

If the (What did you call it ?)oh yes

“the political climate of Massachusetts”

could so easily influence Willard Mitt Romney to cause him to cower to the point of passing such wicked laws,

What do you think “the political climate of Washington” would do to him if he ever got near the White House ???


41 posted on 05/13/2012 5:22:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Agamemnon

I don’t fail to understand anything, including your attitude and your little high pitched anti-conservative Romney song that he is secretly, something he isn’t, secretly? how twisted and bizarre.

Fourth Republican Governor in a row, in a state that prefers Republican Governors, at least until they got a dose of the incompetent, unlikable Mitt Romney.

The Romney that was donating to democrats, fund raising for democrats and Planned Parenthood, and that did not try to run to the right of Ted Kennedy on some issues, but to the left, voting for Tsongas.

Romney did not have to support democrats in multiple states or have to be anti-Reagan, or have to refuse to switch back to republican until October, 1993.

Redstate speculates-For anyone who either believes in leprechauns or that Mitt Romney is a conservative this should be of significance, especially since his minions haunted this site making much of the fact that Rick Perry was a Democrat before 1989.

The speculation is that Romney had originally intended to challenge Ted Kennedy in the Democrat primary then decided to run as a Republican. This makes his 1994 campaign strategy much more understandable.

According to a Romney campaign spokesperson, Romney “switched back.” One doesn’t know how Romney managed to “switch back.” According to the town clerk, Romney became an Republican only on October 19, 1993. The implication is that Romney had either never voted between his registration as a independent in 1979 and 1992 (so his vote in 1992 automatically enrolled him as a Democrat) or that he was a regular Democrat voters in those earlier elections and changed to Republican to run for Senate.


42 posted on 05/13/2012 5:30:20 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Tennessee Nana

Romney chose Massachusetts for the very reason that it was a good match for his own politics, it was the proper constituency to match him, his chosen voter base.

Romney chose, Massachusetts.


43 posted on 05/13/2012 5:39:11 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Romney chose, Massachusetts.
_________________________________

Yes I do know that he could have run for office in Utah at that time

but he couldnt get the Right to Life folks in Utah to endorse him..

I wonder why ???


44 posted on 05/13/2012 5:48:51 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I guess Romney is too skilled at keeping his Reaganism ‘secret’, or maybe that Utah problem was fake and was really part of the 60 year deep cover Reaganite double agent act.


45 posted on 05/13/2012 6:00:21 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Agamemnon

“I tell you you. For all your wrinkles, you still have no wisdom.”

Persuasive as ever.


47 posted on 05/13/2012 6:38:33 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: ansel12
Instead of speculating, why don't you do some research of your own and just produce a (D) registration for Romney prior to 1993 and end all the rumor you started then? So far you have been little more than a hearsay peddler.

Yes, we all know that Rick Perry was a (D). Ronald Reagan was once a (D), Jeanne Kirpatrick was once a (D), and so weren't a host of others. They got over it. You have no evidence that Romney was ever a (D). All you have is gossip from un-named sources.

I'm quite sure that Obama loves all your speculation.

I don't have to like Romney. You don't have to like Romney. I don't like poilticians in general, but like anyone, I do expect them to do what I voted them in for. I work to elect politicians who have the best chance to promote conservatism. I vote for those most likely to make that happen.

You need to realize that Presidential level conservatism and any hope for conservative USSC appointments will not happen at all with Obama in office.

Yours is the kind of sniping Obama doesn't even have to pay a dime for.

He laughs at you.

Why don't you just quit all the sniping and see what you can do to actually make the (R) nominee win this November.

FReegards!


48 posted on 05/13/2012 7:11:40 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: GreyFriar

Good points in your post # 6. Thanks.


49 posted on 05/13/2012 7:51:06 PM PDT by zot
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To: Agamemnon

I noticed you never posted during the 2007/2008 election cycle, we covered all this years ago, especially the Reagan bashing part of the Romney devotees comedy routine.


50 posted on 05/13/2012 8:19:32 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Agamemnon

Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear Agamemnon!


51 posted on 05/13/2012 8:21:20 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tennessee Nana

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._United_States


52 posted on 05/13/2012 8:24:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
 

Polygamy: How it all got Started


 
 
 
Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?
 
Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?
 
Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.
 
Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!
 
Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!
 
 
Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"
 
 
Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!
 
 
 
 
 

 
...and the rest is HISTORY...
 

 
 
 
 
 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 

Or even HERE:
 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.



 
 
Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!
 
Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!
 
 


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.


53 posted on 05/13/2012 8:25:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The faith’s sacred text, the Book of Mormon, describes the United States as “a land of promise ...

Where to start??

1. THE 'sacred text'? they hold at LEAST 3 others as 'sacred': The KJV of the bible, The Pearl of Great Price and the Doctrines and Covenants.

The Book of MORMON contains almost NO MORMON doctrine and nothing about what goes on in the MORMON temples!

2. It CANNOT be describing the United State, for MORMON scholars canNOT decide on where to place the events mentioned in the BoM!!!

54 posted on 05/13/2012 8:30:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...The KJV of the bible...

Is highly suspect, according to the MORMON creed - The Articles of Faith.

It is SO suspect that GOD himself told Joseph Smith to RETRANSLATE it to remove the ERROR that was contained in it; caused by the hand of man.

That work is known as the JST: the Joseph Smith Translation.

Strangely; the powers that be in Salt Lake City do NOT consider it to be SCRIPTURE!!!

55 posted on 05/13/2012 8:34:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: The Iceman Cometh
If the actions of one in the past color someone in the future, then all Catholics are as dirty as hell. Just sayin'.

If the KNOWLEDGE of the practices of the MORMON past, leads one to be silent about whether GOD sanctioned them, then most MORMONs are guilty of ACCEPTING the old ways of doing things.

Of course; I might be wrong.

If so, I am SURE that any MORMONs reading this will post some evidence to that fact.

56 posted on 05/13/2012 8:39:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Little Bill
My Fathers family is LDS and WE have fought in EVERY WAR This Country has engaged in from 1776 until last week.

Oh?

That's a neat trick!!

57 posted on 05/13/2012 8:41:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Sorry for your lack of principles...


58 posted on 05/13/2012 8:42:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ansel12
I don’t fail to understand anything, including your attitude and your little high pitched anti-conservative Romney song that he is secretly, something he isn’t, secretly? how twisted and bizarre.

Speaking of songs...


(click)
Praise to the Man!
 
 
 
Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


59 posted on 05/13/2012 8:46:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ansel12
Didja notice the GODS reference in the song above?

Romney, a dyed-in-the-wool MORMON ism believer and adherant, believes that HE is going to be one.


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


60 posted on 05/13/2012 8:47:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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