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Voting for Romney? Where is your line in the sand? (Vanity)

Posted on 04/26/2012 9:18:03 AM PDT by Student0165

I want to ask those who consider themselves conservatives, and are going to vote for Romney because he happens to have an (R) instead of a (D) behind his name on the ballot sheet, where do you draw your personal line in the sand and say "No more"? For stupid people reading this (liberals and DHS type workers), I don't mean violence - I mean not voting for "the lesser of two evils".


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: no2backstabbers; no2flipfloppers; no2moretaxes; no2romney; no2romneycare; no2saboteurs; no2tarp; no2whiningposers
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To: Yashcheritsiy
A non-crazy conservative could mount a winning campaign.

It's more than just running a non-crazy candidate. You have to have someone of real stature. The electorate needs to be very, very angry. There could be a Conservative party victory and permanent replacement of the Republican party but I think without these things it ain't gonna happen.

221 posted on 04/26/2012 11:48:10 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: Student0165

Skimmed through the first 100 posts, and as usual not one, not one confirmed policy change Mandate-Mitt in any post, not one.

Federal Bloc. dream candidate. Mandate-Mitt, the most unknown mandate dangerous Federal Takeover candidate ever. No wonder they want the Undocumented Coffee Server out.


222 posted on 04/26/2012 11:48:31 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: BlatherNaut

Some of them would be posting or lurking on Free Republic trying to figure out what to do.


223 posted on 04/26/2012 11:48:47 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

From Wiki: A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent’s position. To “attack a straw man” is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the “straw man”), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

Nobody here has argued that the GOP will automatically receive conservatives’ votes.


224 posted on 04/26/2012 11:50:02 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: D-fendr
BTW: Everything you talk about doing to create this third party could be done within the GOP easier and quicker.

Nope. It's already been tried. It didn't work. Face it - as much as you want to believe otherwise, the GOP simply is not a place for conservatives anymore.

225 posted on 04/26/2012 11:50:39 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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To: Student0165
Thanks for your reply:

Once Palin decided not to run, I could have held my nose and voted for Gingrich.

Both of these have sizable and vocal opposition here. The problem is closer to home than blaming the party, IMHO.

Start a third party and I believe you will have the same problems, the same arguments, the same disunity. Until this is overcome, nothing really changes.

226 posted on 04/26/2012 11:50:39 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Student0165

And I bet you donated a kidney to a homeless vet. What a load.


227 posted on 04/26/2012 11:50:43 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: D-fendr

A) I spent two decades trying to fix the GOP. Like I told you, it’s a pipe dream. And with the impending nomination of Romney, the situation just got infinitely worse.

B) I’ve spent four years building a new party, and we’re doing just fine, with a minimum of “arguments and fights.” And we’re doing it on a completely principled basis.


228 posted on 04/26/2012 11:52:18 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
You mean the guy who was polling 40+% consistently throughout June of 1992

Poll results 6 months before elections aren't particularly relevant.

I voted for Perot. It was a dumb mistake. Lesson learned.

229 posted on 04/26/2012 11:53:19 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Student0165

I don’t vote for Socialists, whether Republican or Democrat.

Mitt 0bamney is therefore disqualified from the possibility of receiving my vote.


230 posted on 04/26/2012 11:53:36 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

That was an utterly stupid and worthless reply. You made a claim that you cannot possibly know to be true and I called you on your b.s.


231 posted on 04/26/2012 11:53:40 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Nope. It's already been tried. It didn't work.

I watched it and worked in and for it when it did work during the Reagan years.

The party is not a separate monolithic entity - it is comprised of people. It's not exactly the same from one month to the next, one election to the next.

Politics is messy and a long hard continuous slog, from the bottom to the top. The work and results are the same within the GOP as they would be in a new party, except you'd have much greater obstacles to overcome in a new party.

232 posted on 04/26/2012 11:54:53 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“A non-crazy conservative...”

Leftists, Romneybots, and several recent posters on Free Republic would say that’s an oxymoron even if not talking about Ross Perot.


233 posted on 04/26/2012 11:54:57 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: kenmcg
Quite frankly the country can’t take another four years of the messiah. Maybe we can get enough conservative pubbies in the house and senate to make Romney toe the line.

I have to agree with this. I know many Freepers are blaming the GOPe for giving us Romney, but my view is that we did not have a strong slate to begin with. I really wanted Palin to run and then went for Cain until it dawned on me that Newt was the smartest man on the stage. Now, I am going to do everything I can to keep the Kenyan from having a second term. NO ONE is more evil than him and his minions.

What we need to ask ourselves is why didn't a really STRONG conservative throw his/her hat in the ring? Didn't we have someone other than Palin?

234 posted on 04/26/2012 11:55:11 AM PDT by saminfl
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To: D-fendr; EternalVigilance
Not naive. Those state chairman you blame, can be replaced. They very often are.

Good grief, you *are* naive, aren't you?

Replaced by whom, another state chair whose jib is cut the exact same way. State party politics are almost always driven by personality more than ideology, except in very rare circumstances where a determined ideological minority raises enough of a ruckus that the rank and file wakes up for a moment and gets mad enough to turn out in force at county conventions.

Most of the time, however, when one state chair (or other top official) is replaced, it has to do with factional politics - one guy's circle of followers was able to finagle a way to get the other guy thrown out.

235 posted on 04/26/2012 11:55:15 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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To: PeteB570

What line is it you speak of? I choose between the choices that have qualified to be on the ballot based on what is the best for America.That always means not voting democrat.


236 posted on 04/26/2012 11:55:15 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: All

as long as America is still a free country, I will vote in every election. I will vote for Romney, since not voting is not an option for me. I won’t vote for a Marxist, and not voting is a vote for the Marxist.


237 posted on 04/26/2012 11:55:34 AM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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To: brownsfan
Explain how and why a second Obama term is the best option?

One reason it would kill the Whig party for certain.

238 posted on 04/26/2012 11:55:41 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: D-fendr

I’m not insinuating a third party like some harridans on this thread (who do not know me) are contending. I don’t believe a third party will work with our election system. I am, however, fed up with fear voting and I asked a simple question about where conservatives draw their voting line in the sand when it comes to the same old Dole/McCain/Romney - and even Bush candidates.

Thank you for your sane replies.


239 posted on 04/26/2012 11:56:17 AM PDT by Student0165 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: cripplecreek

Enjoy the next 4 years of Obama then.Hope he doesn’t end your jobs in those 4 years.


240 posted on 04/26/2012 11:56:27 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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