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To: D-fendr

A) I spent two decades trying to fix the GOP. Like I told you, it’s a pipe dream. And with the impending nomination of Romney, the situation just got infinitely worse.

B) I’ve spent four years building a new party, and we’re doing just fine, with a minimum of “arguments and fights.” And we’re doing it on a completely principled basis.


228 posted on 04/26/2012 11:52:18 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: EternalVigilance

My experience was different, it was successful. If you’re unsuccessful there are reasons for it.

If your third party grows to any size, say the size necessary to get on the ballot and run a credible national campaign, you will have fights and dissension and same problems you have with the GOP.

Because the only way not to is to not have very many people involved.

The politics of freedom are a messy affair.


246 posted on 04/26/2012 11:59:07 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: EternalVigilance; D-fendr
A) I spent two decades trying to fix the GOP. Like I told you, it’s a pipe dream. And with the impending nomination of Romney, the situation just got infinitely worse.

I have to confess, I used to be vehemently opposed to third partyism and advocated for "reforming" the GOP from within. I used to make all the same stupid little unthinking arguments for "choosing the lesser of two evils" that we see people on this thread making. I woke up - they haven't.

My advice would be to just dismiss the "lesser of two evils" people and forge ahead without them. Likely, they'd just be dead weight in any serious movement to advance conservatism anywise. Keep building from the ground up, seeking to replace the GOP and it's establishment. When that happens, people like these on here will rally around once the GOP is visibly sliding, because following, rather than leading, is what these people do.

256 posted on 04/26/2012 12:08:45 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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