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Witness: Troy Teen Arrested for Carrying Rifle 'Was in His Legal Right' (MI)
patch.com ^ | 17 April, 2012 | Jen Anesi

Posted on 04/24/2012 12:01:21 PM PDT by marktwain

Troy High senior Sean Michael Combs, 18, was arrested Friday in downtown Birmingham after he was found carrying a loaded M1 Garand rifle.

It was a warm Friday night in April, and Troy High School senior Sean Michael Combs was enthusiastic about the rifle he received a month earlier as a gift for his 18th birthday, so he decided to carry it with him when he headed to downtown Birmingham with a friend.

Combs' choice to carry the M1 Garand slung over his shoulder resulted in his arrest by Birmingham Police – an experience his close friend Lia Grabowski calls "terrifying."

Grabowski spoke up on Combs' behalf Monday, saying her friend "was in his legal right" when he was arrested.

Grabowski, 17, also a senior at Troy High, said she was with Combs at the time of his arrest Friday and witnessed Combs' exchange with police.

“We were just walking down to Birmingham," Grabowski said. "We weren’t doing anything. There were groups of kids walking around.

"He’s a huge supporter of open carry and the right to bear arms, and he thought he could legally carry. He wasn’t going to use it on anyone. Obviously, he could have defended himself, but he wasn’t looking for a fight.”

Grabowski said she and Combs were approached by a few teenagers who asked if his rifle was real, though "nobody was afraid, and everyone was kind of curious."

Then, the pair was stopped by a police officer, who asked to see Combs' driver's license, Grabowski said. Combs declined, and moments later, two more officers arrived and arrested Combs as he reached to produce his identification, according to Grabowski.

"He was in his legal right," Grabowski said. "He refused to give him his ID, but not rudely."

Grabowski said she does not agree with the actions of the Birmingham Police officers, adding that the experience was "terrifying."

Combs is a four-year member of the Troy High School cross country team, serving as one of its captains this past season. He was also on the track team for three years and ran indoor track for two years.

"I can kind of understand the fact that he’s an 18-year-old, and he doesn’t really look 18, but he was completely within his legal right and they did not have a right to arrest him. ... They had what they asked for, and they arrested him anyway."

"We understand long gun open carry to be lawful" in the state of Michigan, said Phillip Hofmeister, president of Michigan Open Carry, Inc., though he added that the group does not advocate open carry of long guns. Also, according to the group's website, "under no legal obligation are you required to talk to a police officer or produce identification of any kind if you are not being detained."

Combs declined to comment Monday without his attorney present. He is scheduled to be arraigned May 2 on charges of disturbing the peace, brandishing a weapon and obstructing an investigation.

Birmingham Police could not be reached for comment Monday evening.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; mi; michigan; opencarry
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It is legal to carry a rifle openly in Michigan. One does not need a reason to exercise a Constitutional right.

Many interesting comments at the link.

1 posted on 04/24/2012 12:01:31 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

We’re the enemy, the terrorist...you can’t exercise a Constitutional right when it doesn’t exist...


2 posted on 04/24/2012 12:06:04 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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Did he have a dog with him? Did the cops shoot it?


3 posted on 04/24/2012 12:07:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: marktwain
Gun laws in Michigan:

Rifles and Shotguns


4 posted on 04/24/2012 12:10:49 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: marktwain

Disturbing the Peace. The most over-used and abused charge.


5 posted on 04/24/2012 12:11:22 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: marktwain
Birmingham's a yuppie area, and not friendly to the 2nd Amendment.

Personally, I don't LIKE longgun carry, but from a legal standpoint, it's allowed, and should be allowed.

6 posted on 04/24/2012 12:15:47 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
I grew up in a small Michigan town and carried guns into the local grocery store on many occasions simply because I was on my way to the woods at the edge of town.

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7 posted on 04/24/2012 12:17:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marktwain

Ah, he’s lawyered up. Good for him. I expect this will be expensive for Birmingham...


8 posted on 04/24/2012 12:24:50 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
It is unlawful to possess a firearm in a financial institution, church, court, school, hospital, theater, sports arena, restaurant with a liquor or alcohol license or day care center.

And those are seriously in doubt.

MSP: Law allows some to carry guns in schools(MI)
9 posted on 04/24/2012 12:26:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Concur.

It is unlawful to carry a handgun concealed on or about one’s person or concealed or openly in a vehicle without a license to carry a concealed pistol.

This one also falls under the "Shall not be infringed." part of the Constitutionally protected right and should be contested.

10 posted on 04/24/2012 12:38:07 PM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: rjsimmon

The Constitution of the State of Michigan of Article 1, Section 6 reads:

Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.


11 posted on 04/24/2012 12:40:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marktwain

How does a slung rifle qualify as “brandishing” when you aren’t even holding it? As far as “obstructing an investigation”, there was no investigation until the cops obstructed this man’s freedom as a citizen to walk down a public street with a legal firearm. Bulls#it charges - throw a bunch of them against the wall and see what sticks.


12 posted on 04/24/2012 12:51:33 PM PDT by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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To: marktwain
This is a story about the police. No commenting until ALL the facts are in.

/s

13 posted on 04/24/2012 12:52:02 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: marktwain

They have him if he refused to show ID, I think.


14 posted on 04/24/2012 1:02:44 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: marktwain

I saw a young woman in downtown Medford, Oregon on a mountain bike at a stop light with a pink-stocked AR-15 slung over her shoulder!

Now that’s “Right to Carry!”


15 posted on 04/24/2012 1:04:22 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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“charges of disturbing the peace, brandishing a weapon and obstructing an investigation”

Did he really “brandish” the gun, or did his open carrying suddenly become “brandishing” because the cop didn’t like him? Same thing goes for “disturbing the peace” or “obstructing an investigation.” Basically it depends on how the officer’s feeling that day. The judge’ll back him up, unless you have clear evidence to the contrary. Which, most likely, explains many cities’ crackdown on videotaping cops in public without their consent.

From “The Wire”:

“Let me let you in on a little secret, the patrolling officer on his beat is the one true dictatorship in America, we can lock a guy up on the humble, lock him up for real, or say fuck it and drink ourselves to death under the expressway and our side partners will cover us, No one - I mean no one - tells us how to waste our shift.”


16 posted on 04/24/2012 1:05:40 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Darren McCarty

“Personally, I don’t LIKE longgun carry, but from a legal standpoint, it’s allowed, and should be allowed.”

That’s well and good, but did you know that if you were a cop your “like” becomes the law through the magic of “disturbing the peace”? Those guys have all the fun.


17 posted on 04/24/2012 1:09:13 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: marktwain
M1 Garand rifle...for his 18th birthday.

Wow. Nice present.

18 posted on 04/24/2012 1:17:08 PM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova

Michigan FIREARMS LAW

As more and more police officers are encountering citizens who are openly carrying firearms in Michigan, the Michigan State Police offers this special edition of the Update to assist officers in familiarizing themselves with Michigan laws regarding both open and concealed carrying of firearms.
Open carry of firearms

In Michigan, it is legal for a person to carry a firearm in public as long as the person is carrying the firearm with lawful intent and the firearm is not concealed. You will not find a law that states it is legal to openly carry a firearm. It is legal because there is no Michigan law that prohibits it; however, Michigan law limits the premises on which a person may carry a firearm.

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSP_Legal_Update_No._86_2_336854_7.pdf


19 posted on 04/24/2012 1:20:52 PM PDT by XXXoholic
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To: ltc8k6

nope. he wasn’t committing a crime, he hadn’t been detained. no requirement to show id.


20 posted on 04/24/2012 1:24:17 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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