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ZIMMERMAN CHARGED WITH SECOND DEGEE MURDER
ap ^ | april 11,2012 | pawpawrick

Posted on 04/11/2012 3:19:09 PM PDT by pawpawrick

MIAMI (CBSMiami) – George Zimmerman has been charged with second-degree murder for the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, according to the Associated Press.

Additionally, Zimmerman has been taken into custody, but it hasn’t been revealed where he is being held.

CBSMiami has confirmed that State Attorney Angela Corey, who was appointed as a special prosecutor in the case, will hold an announcement about the charges at 6 p.m. in Jacksonville.

That press conference can be viewed LIVE starting at 6 p.m. by clicking here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: angelacorey; angelacory; arrest; bizarroworld; george; georgezimmerman; justicefortrayvon; murder; preciousvictim; seconddegreemurder; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermancharged
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To: kelly4c
Haven't gone through the entire posts, but I agree that 2nd degree murder is simply not going to be "provable". By going for all the marbles, you get a Rodney King situation. A jury WOULD have convicted the cops on a LESSER charge, but they went for the much more severe charge, and couldn't get the jury to convict.

Result? Acquittal. Riots. Then Obama goes after Z on "civil rights charges", like GHW Bush did. Lotta good THAT did him with the black community he was trying to appease in 1992.

It simply won't work. Didn't 20 years ago. We've learned nothing from history.

481 posted on 04/11/2012 11:34:26 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: butterdezillion

A bit late in the season to do that I think.


482 posted on 04/12/2012 12:08:40 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

We were warned straight up. Obama sat in Rev. Wright’s church for 20 years listening to tirades against white America.


483 posted on 04/12/2012 12:21:57 AM PDT by SuzyQueIN
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To: juno67
This is exactly why our Founding Fathers gave us the right to a jury trial. Unlike prosecutors (and judges), juries don’t have to answer to the electorate. Convincing twelve jurors beyond a reasonable doubt is going to be a big hurdle.

But the whole point of the SYG law was to place the burden of proving that it was NOT self-defense on the prosecution, rather than the previous state of affairs where anyone who acted in self-defense was put through the devastating financial and mental meat-grinder of a trial - where they were first victimized by their attacker, and then by the prosecutors.

484 posted on 04/12/2012 1:08:57 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: who knows what evil?

“Boycott Florida, cripple their economy; and this woman’s political aspirations will be over.”

That’s a stupid, knee jerk recommendation! Where ever did you come up with that??

JC


485 posted on 04/12/2012 1:15:46 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: pawpawrick
Just saw a Promo for the Today Show on NBC.

Travon’s Parents will be interviewed Thursday morning on the same Network that slandered Zimmerman as a Racist with their intentional editing of the 911 audio tape.

Reminds me of Dan Rather's fake but accurate reporting of George Bush in the Air National Guard, just a little worse...

What caught my attention was the Graphic included in the Promo. They showed the picture of Trayvon as an innocent smiling 12 year old and the usual White / Hispanic picture of Zimmerman.

The Media is corrupt to the core.

486 posted on 04/12/2012 1:17:27 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“There is no justice left in Florida... the majority of those polled in Florida will vote for obama... they voted for him in 2008... and crime and murder against whites is growing exponentially. I will never set foot in Florida again... sadly but I just will never go there again.”

Where is your evidence of this accusation that the state had any hand in this? With this type of demagoguery, mebbe it would be a good idea for you to just stay away! We have had enough of that crapola already!

JC


487 posted on 04/12/2012 1:35:07 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: PhatHead
"We do not prosecute by public pressure or by petition. We prosecute based on the facts on any given case as well as the laws of the state of Florida," Angela Cory

Hmm, is that cow manure I smell???

488 posted on 04/12/2012 2:05:09 AM PDT by Have Ruck - Will Travel (Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I...)
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To: chessplayer

Zimmerman not responding back to the two lawyers that may or may not have even been retained by him is totally irrelevant to what the special prosecutor did.
Zimmerman wasn’t even called or re-questioned by this woman.
Her decision to file charges was made as soon as she was assigned to this case or shortly after. The fact he stopped responding back to them this past Sunday didn’t matter one hill of beans to “his case” one way or another.
The die was already cast imo.

He has a good attorney now, though.


489 posted on 04/12/2012 3:04:15 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: Doe Eyes

“Just presenting the other side.”

No, you were just making up the other side with no evidence whatsoever!!

JC


490 posted on 04/12/2012 3:07:14 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: Aglooka; Responsibility2nd

wrong answer!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2870892/replies?c=5


491 posted on 04/12/2012 3:08:01 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Doe Eyes

“If I pick a fight and try start losing I can kill the guy attacking me and get off scott free.”

Real slick there slick, make up a fake strawman argument, then make fake conclusions off of that! A loser all the way around!

JC


492 posted on 04/12/2012 3:18:47 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: pawpawrick

Don’t know much Florida law, but from the info that’s out there on the case I gather that 2nd Degree requires a Grand Jury indictment. Failing that, they’d have to reduce the charges to 3rd Degree.


493 posted on 04/12/2012 3:28:43 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

The City reviewed the case and said that the shooting was self defense. They even had a press release due to the false information being distributed by the alphabet networks.
Subject: Trayvon Martin Investigation

Trayvon Martin Investigation

________________________________________

FAQ Letter

Dear Citizens:

There has been a lot of media attention to the recent incident where George Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin. This is indeed a tragic situation and has caused a flood of questions and strong emotions from within our community, the region and nation. On behalf of the employees of the City of Sanford, Our deepest sympathy and prayers go out to the family and friends of Trayvon Martin. As a father, I can only image the pain Trayvon’s family must be going though. In an effort to continue to be as responsive as possible to the public seeking information on the incident, I have asked Chief Lee to provide answers to some of the most frequently asked questions regarding this matter. Below are his responses. . . . .

Fellow Citizens:

There has been a lot of media attention to the recent incident where George Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin. This is indeed a tragic situation and has

caused a flood of questions and strong emotions from within our community, the region and nation. On behalf of the employees of the City of Sanford, Our deepest sympathy

and prayers go out to the family and friends of Trayvon Martin. As a father, I can only image the pain Trayvon’s family must be going through. The City of Sanford is

committed to insuring that justice is served and, therefore, the City of Sanford has contacted the United States Attorney General’s Office for assistance in this matter.

In an effort to continue to be as responsive as possible to the public seeking information on the incident, I have asked Chief Lee to provide answers to some of the most frequently

asked questions regarding this matter. Below are his responses. Please understand that since this is still an ongoing investigation, the Police Department is limited in what

information it can publicly release.

The men and women of the Sanford Police Department extend our heartfelt sympathies to the Martin family. This is indeed a tragic situation. The death of

anyone due to violence, especially a 17 year old young man, is morally appalling. As this incident has generated a lot of media attention, we wanted to provide answers to

some of the most frequently asked questions.

Why was George Zimmerman not arrested the night of the shooting?

When the Sanford Police Department arrived at the scene of the incident, Mr. Zimmerman provided a statement claiming he acted in self defense which at the time

was supported by physical evidence and testimony. By Florida Statute, law enforcement was PROHIBITED from making an arrest based on the facts and

circumstances they had at the time. Additionally, when any police officer makes an arrest for any reason, the officer MUST swear and affirm that he/she is making the

arrest in good faith and with probable cause. If the arrest is done maliciously and in bad faith, the officer and the City may be held liable.

According to Florida Statute 776.032 :

776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use

of force.—

(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action

for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance

of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have

known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or

prosecuting the defendant.

(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the

person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.

Why weren’t the 911 tapes initially released?

There are exemptions to the public records laws for active criminal intelligence and for ongoing investigations. In this instance, the 911 calls made by neighbors in the

subdivision, and the non-emergency call made by Mr. Zimmerman are all key to the investigation by Sanford Police Department. In consultation with the Office of the

State Attorney, the Sanford police department had decided not to release the audio recordings of the 911 calls due to the ongoing investigation. Many times, specific

information is contained in those recordings which is vital to the integrity of the investigation. At the time, it was determined that if revealed, the information may

compromise the integrity of the investigation prior to its completion. The 911 tapes have since been released.

Why did Mr. Zimmerman have a firearm in his possession while acting in the role of a neighborhood watch member?

Mr. Zimmerman holds a concealed weapon permit issued from the State of Florida. He is authorized to carry the weapon in a concealed manner wherever Florida

Statute dictates. Neighborhood Watch programs are designed for members of a neighborhood to be “eyes and ears” for police and to watch out for their neighbors.

They are not members of the Police Department nor are they vigilantes. Training provided by law enforcement agencies to Neighborhood Watch organizations

stresses non-contact surveillance of suspicious situations and notifying police of those situations so that law enforcement can respond and take control of the

situation. Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred. He was in fact on a personal

errand in his vehicle when he observed Mr. Martin in the community and called the Sanford Police Department.

If Zimmerman was told not to continue to follow Trayvon, can that be considered in this investigation?

Yes it will; however, the telecommunications call taker asked Zimmerman “are you following him”. Zimmerman replied, “yes”. The call taker stated “you don’t need to do

that”. The call taker’s suggestion is not a lawful order that Mr. Zimmerman would be required to follow. Zimmerman’s statement was that he had lost sight of Trayvon and

was returning to his truck to meet the police officer when he says he was attacked by Trayvon.

Why was George Zimmerman labeled as “squeaky clean” when in fact he has a prior arrest history?

In one of the initial meetings with the father of the victim the investigator related to him the account that Mr. Zimmerman provided of the incident. At that time the

investigator said that Mr. Zimmerman portrayed himself to be “squeaky clean”. We are aware of the background information regarding both individuals involved in this

event. We believe Mr. Martin may have misconstrued this information.

What about media reenactments of the shooting incident?

Any media reenactments of the shooting incident are purely speculation. To date the Sanford Police Department has not released any rendition of the events of the

evening to anyone other than the Office of the State Attorney. The renditions we have seen are not consistent with the evidence in this case.

The Sanford Police Department has conducted a complete and fair investigation of this incident. We have provided the results of our investigation to the Office of the

State Attorney for their review and consideration for possible criminal prosecution. Although the Police Department is the target of the troubling questions, let me

assure you we too feel the pain of this senseless tragedy that has dramatically affected our community. Therefore, as we move forward and strive to answer the

questions that are a point of controversy in the community, we ask for your patience, understanding and assistance in getting the correct information to the community

We trust that this information is helpful to you.

Norton N. Bonaparte, Jr., ICMA-CM

City Manager

March 23, 2012


494 posted on 04/12/2012 3:33:33 AM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: cracker45
That’s a stupid, knee jerk recommendation! Where ever did you come up with that??

Actually; it came from several other posters, and it is a damn good idea. Why should ANYONE in their right mind visit a state where they will charge you with MURDER if you try to defend your family against a pack of feral savages?

Floridians put these despicable morons in power; you can live with the consequences.

I won't set foot in that damn state again...

495 posted on 04/12/2012 3:48:29 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: PhatHead

Angela Corey has likely done Mr. Zimmerman a favor by not sending this to a grand jury. Grand Jury indictments are often sealed and would place this entire thing in a shroud of secrecy. This is his best chance for establishing that he has immunity under the stand your ground law. I do wonder what contact if any she had with State and Federal officials before bringing these charges. She would appear to share liability for damages if Mr. Zimmerman is found to have Immunity.

I found an article from the Examiner stating that Mr. Zimmerman has established a defense fund. Here is that article. He needs the best defense that money can buy because he is targeted by Democrats and Rinocrats everywhere.
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-norfolk/george-zimmerman-sets-up-website-legal-defense-fund

The only hate I can find involved in this case is the Left’s hatred of Mr. Zimmerman and the right to self-defense.


496 posted on 04/12/2012 3:50:17 AM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: Cubs Fan
...even more disgusting, she is a republican appointed to do this by Florida's republican governor.

Live and learn. There's a reason they call it Flori-DUH.

497 posted on 04/12/2012 3:51:06 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Greysard
This scenario, as matter of fact, unfolded in pre-WW2 Germany. Jews were alienated, oppressed, arrested - and they did nothing. Not every Jew even tried to escape Germany, let alone forming a rebellion. Many whites in the USA are like that - they think too much, they have things and people to worry about, and they can convince themselves that the troubles will disappear on their own. But they never do.

Morning bump for this outstanding post!

498 posted on 04/12/2012 3:59:11 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: physcitech
After a lengthy trial where all of the evidence will come out, hopefully cooler heads will prevail.

I hope they aren't that stupid. Sounds like the theory that electing a black man to the presidency would permanently heal the racial divisions in this country.

We see how that is working out...

499 posted on 04/12/2012 4:02:06 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: boop
We've learned nothing from history.

No kidding...didn't learn much from Rhodesia, either...

500 posted on 04/12/2012 4:05:03 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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