Presumption of innocence ping to Today show list.
Why does no one seems to remember Al Sharpton’s role in the Twana Brawley hoax.
More anti-white hysteria (though Zimmmerman could be said to be hispanic) from the old dying crazy media. Why there are any conservatives who actually respect the liberals in the media is beyond me?
I will go against the grain here and agree with Scarborough. All indications I have seen are that this was a good kid doing nothing wrong and this was not a justified killing. 99 out of 100 times, the race baiting is just that, but every one in awhile, it can be legitimate.
Dear George Zimmerman,
If you are exonerated, I know where you can get a lot of money, and I can recommend a few good lawyers.
Love,
Laz
In the old west a gun fight was ‘legal’ if it was a ‘fair fight’, i.e. both parties had to be armed.
If the kid was breaking into Zimmerman’s house - burn him down!
But to accost and shoot an unarmed 17 year old on a public street? I need to hear a better reason to take a life.
Being "edgy" no longer gets attention, so he goes full bore with macho inflammatory language in the forlorn hope he'll grab some attention and his few viewers might conclude he's really a guy.
Leni
Martin was on top of Zimmerman, beating him in the head.
That’s why no charges were filed.
Here’s what I don’t quite get. Apparently the shooter has not been charged with anything. Is this because the DA completed their inquiry and concluded that no crime had been committed, or is it because the inquiry is still ongoing?
If the former, then all I can say is “what were they thinking?” Meaning I can’t say for sure what happened, but I can’t say for sure that no crime has been committed. I’d let a jury make that determination.
If the latter, then I’d say “let the process run its course”. Meaning all this sound and fury is way premature.
By now, we all know what Scarborough is, why listen?
The thing is Zimmerman NEVER verbally engages Trayvon in a friendly matter while he was on the phone with 911. He had plenty of opportunity to do so. He was trailing Trayvon for quite awhile. He could of rolled down his window and asked a few simple questions nicely. He sees Trayvon look at him (probably because Trayvon noticed this creepy guy trailing him for a long time) Zimmerman doesn’t speak up to difuse the situtaion......leading to confusing. He continues looking sneaky and trailing Trayvon into a more isolated sidewalk area between the houses.
Zimmerman never simply asks from the safety of his vehicle, “hey do you live around here?” Zimmerman never identifies himself as a neighborhood watchman. He has no visible identification. (not that anyone should automaticially trust someone in a phony uniform) What Zimmerman failed to see is that his actions could be perceived as very suspicious, stalkerish, shady and threatening! its completely lost on him. He has no training and needed serious lessons in common sense 101.
The 911 operator tried to do him a favor because they know it could get messy. The is exactly why they told him to sit his ass down.
Zimmerman DID NOT say he was afraid for his life.....he said he was afraid he would “get away” Zimmerman admits on the tape “Oh crap he’s running” That means Zimmerman must have chased after trayvon to catch up with him. He says on tape he thought the man might be on drugs, and a gun. Nobody forced Zimmerman to follow (who he perceived to be) possibly a dangerous person.
Are people supposed to have mental telepathy powers to know Zimmerman is just looking out for the neighborhood? Zimmerman failed to see how his own actions could easily seen as threatening. He just assumed everybody should automatically know he’s the king. He followed Martin for a long time and continued into an isolated area.
What if Trayvon happened to be a 17 year old black female? She sees Zimmerman (a creepy looking man IMO) slowing trailing her as she walks home from 7-11. She starts getting worried. Zimmerman never asks her from a safe distance that he is a neighborhood watchman. Even if he did, why should she believe him? He’s a stranger. It could be a ruse. It’s dark out. Not too many people out and about. Zimmerman is not walking his dog or taking a walk with wife or kids. She starts walking faster. zimmerman doesn’t have a glow in the dard t-shirt that says Neightborhood watch. Then she notices he’s on foot and he’s still following her. She picks up the pace because she doesn’t want him anywhere near her. She hears his footsteps picking up. She makes a turn in between the homes still walking the sidewalk, to see if he makes the same turn. He does. She starts to run because she is almost home. She hears him start running. She turns around quickly and sprays him with mace because she only has seconds to act before he grabs her and tries to rape her. In Zimmerman’s mind he would probably FALSELY conclude he was the innocent victim in this scenario and that gave him the right to shoot her in self defense! Zimmerman caused the scuffle by stalking Trayvon and surprising him. zimmerman used excessive force as well in a scuffle he started.
It seems foolish to spend so much on investing crimes or potential crimes, gathering and ascertaining facts, and prosecuting the accused at a jury trial when we could just have the nutcases at MSNBC determine guilt based on their feelings, skin color of victims and accused, and other politically correct judgements.
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The mainstream media is grossly misreporting this story to fit the politically-correct narrative. The eyewitness interviewed in the video linked below, from the original local news report, exonerates Zimmerman as acting in self-defense:
Various sources have Martin as 6’3”, not the diminutive boy of the pictures that are being circulated of him. At 6’3”, I find it almost impossible that he would weigh 140 lbs as some are saying. At 17, I was 6’ 2” and a very lean and lanky 151 lbs when I entered basic military training.
Zimmerman is reported to have had a bloody nose, a bloody injury to the back of his head, and grass stains on his back consistent with struggling on his back while pinned from above.
As we learned from the “hockey dad” case from some years ago which some readers will recall, it matters not who intially was the aggressor—once either individual gains the advantage and acts as to threaten death or serious bodily harm on another, THEY become the actual aggressor, and deadly force to defend ones’ self against them is justified.
Many say that the 911 dispatcher instructed Zimmerman not to follow Martin, but that isn’t actually what was said—the dispatcher merely said, “We don’t need you to do that.” Meaning, exactly, that it wasn’t necessary, and also that it wasn’t explicitly prohibited.
The 911 tapes I’ve heard also have Zimmerman saying repeatedly that Martin was coming toward him, advancing on him.
Frankly, the lens through which our society views events like this is badly distorted. When the “Jena 6” nearly beat the young white boy to death in Louisiana a couple of years ago and were charged, the blacks went crazy and staged massive national protests, besieged the town of Jena, and then brought the Jena 6 onstage at the BET Awards to be given a standing ovation and heralded as heroes.
I’ve worked in the ghetto long enough to have had my life threatened by aggressive, hateful, racist blacks, especially young ones, with various weapons and with various items that they wanted me to think were weapons so as to intimidate me. On one occasion, a black kid stuck what at first appeared to be the muzzle of a pistol up to my car window, inches from my head—it turned out to be a metal cigarette lighter. I cannot relate here how often similar situations took place when working the door of nightclubs in the ghetto, when trying to keep order standing my post at an all-night convenience store/gas station in the ghetto...I even had a co-worker who had no other option but to shoot and kill an unarmed young black man who attacked him and went for my coworker’s gun when my co-worker, as a uniformed officer, had to force a group of rowdy blacks to leave an all-night restaurant upon the request of the manager at 3 a.m.; my co-worker and the man he shot wound up on the ground, rolling around and struggling to see who would wind up with the gun. My co-worker is only alive because he managed to get the muzzle under the guy’s chin and get a shot off.
It sounds like Zimmerman was merely trying to do what we need more citizens to do, because the media and “authorities” refuse to address and remedy to out-of-control rate of black crime that prevails in certain areas. The media ignores and even covers up ENDLESS savage, wanton, racially motivated black-on-white crime, deliberately, every day. I am interested in having the truth told.
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While the Zimmerman white on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by African Americans in Oklahoma just the other day?
The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten, his jaw broken, shot in the face with a BB gun and now barely clings to life.
The 85 year old partially blind wife was raped and beaten to death.
Where is the 24/7 MSM coverage
Where is the outrage?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2861754/posts?page=46.
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While the Zimmerman white on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by African Americans in Oklahoma just the other day?
The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten, his jaw broken, shot in the face with a BB gun and now barely clings to life.
The 85 year old partially blind wife was raped and beaten to death.
Where is the 24/7 MSM coverage
Where is the outrage?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2861754/posts?page=46.
There is nothing to suggest that Zimmerman made first contact, let alone confronted or even approached Martin. In fact, one might reasonably assume that Martin became the predator at this point. Knowing that he was being watched, he quickly ducked for cover with the intent of turning the tables on Zimmerman and outflanking him, taking him by surprise.
Here's the link to the 911 calls: