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Romney up big in Illinois (PPP- Rom 45 San 30 NEWT 12)
PPP ^ | 3-18-12 | PPP

Posted on 03/18/2012 10:14:19 PM PDT by VinL

Mitt Romney is headed for a blowout victory in Illinois on Tuesday. He leads with 45% to 30% for Rick Santorum, 12% for Newt Gingrich, and 10% for Ron Paul.

Romney's particularly strong among voters who live in suburban areas (50-29) and with those who live in urban areas (46-23). But he's even running slightly ahead of Santorum, 38-36, with folks who identify as living in rural parts and that strength with a group of voters he hasn't tended to do that well with is why he's looking at such a lopsided margin of victory.

Romney tends to win moderates in most states and Santorum usually win voters describing themselves as 'very conservative.' The swing group in the Republican electorate is those identifying as just 'somewhat conservative.' Romney is winning those folks by a whooping 60-20 margin in Illinois. Romney's also benefiting from a 52-28 advantage with seniors. We've tended to find Santorum a lot more popular with voters even in states that Romney has won over the last six weeks, but that's not the case in Illinois. Romney's favorability is 57/34, about par for the course of where we've found him this year. Santorum's at only 55/36, much worse numbers than we've seen for him most places in the last couple months, and suggesting that GOP voters are starting to sour on him a little bit.

Santorum's winning the group he tends to do well with- Tea Partiers, Evangelicals, and those describing themselves as 'very conservative.' But he's not winning them by the kinds of wide margins he would need to take an overall victory- he's up only 8 with Tea Party voters and 10 with Evangelicals, groups he needs to win by more like 25 points with to hope to win in a northern state. Santorum can't blame Gingrich for his troubles in Illinois either. If Newt was out Romney would still have an 11 point advantage on Santorum, 45-34.


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Rick should have cut a deal wt Newt after FLA- instead of going negative on Newt- and splitting conservatives.
1 posted on 03/18/2012 10:14:33 PM PDT by VinL
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To: VinL

This is a disaster. Either Newt get out or endorse Rick in Illinois. We are going to be stuck with Romney if Newt does not stop his nonsense. This is crazy. Santorum would be in first place had Newt not stolen votes from Rick in Ohio, Michigan and now it looks like Illinois. Do the right thing Newt. I still think Newt should run for Governor of Georgia. This would be his first time running in a state election and might just be a success. He is wasting his time running for President. I know the money is good for him but I would imagine a Governor’s salary would not be too bad.


2 posted on 03/18/2012 10:19:33 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: VinL
Newt Gingrich cannot win in Illinois with his external and internal polls with two days to go, with these kinds of numbers. However, Rick Santorum can (as the margin of undecided is still fairly high and volatile) prevail, within the margin of error.

However, I suppose it is up to many people in the GOP if they want to award this one to Romney as well by continuing to split the Conservative vote, or not, and have the RINO as the standard bearer of the Party, not to mention a moderate platform, and the whole thing come to a crashing defeat in November.

3 posted on 03/18/2012 10:20:17 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Free Republic morphs into a supportive site for Romney, I'll conclude my 13 year participation.)
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To: VinL

What the hell was Santorum doing dithering around in PR when he should’ve been pounding pavement in IL? What an idiot. Maybe he’s the Romney spoiler after all.


4 posted on 03/18/2012 10:23:34 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: napscoordinator

Not only are we going to be stuck with Romney, we are going to be stuck with Obama.


5 posted on 03/18/2012 10:25:35 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: VinL
Thus far, Mitt Romney has generally outperformed the others in the category of those making more than $200,000 annually.

If those exits polls are accurate, it's amazing. These people who have benefited by our American system of free enterprise are voting against their self interest. Romney's programs will merely continue anti-wealth-producing policies of Obama.

These people, who have done so well by dint of their intelligence and hard work, are betraying the very America that allowed them to prosper by coalescing around Romney. They really ought to know better. These are the producers but they're supporting a looter.

6 posted on 03/18/2012 10:26:04 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: napscoordinator

Naps, Rick can’t beat him one on one- Newt neither. Romney has limitless money, organization, the MSM and the Gop-e apparatus.

They had to unite after Fla.


7 posted on 03/18/2012 10:26:14 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: napscoordinator

Exactly. Get ready for our Obama.

Santorum 2012


8 posted on 03/18/2012 10:26:30 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: VinL
Mitt is doing to Rick in Illinois what he did to Newt in Florida: negative ads, most of them defamatory.

Romney is burning so many bridges that he won't have a base if he makes it past the convention.

9 posted on 03/18/2012 10:29:19 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: VinL

Well that is too late now. We will be stuck with Romney. This really sucks. We FINALLY had the opportunity for a great conservative in Rick Santorum with social issues which we have NEVER had and it has been ruined by egos and selfishness. Oh well. Good luck with the election. This is what you guys fought for.


10 posted on 03/18/2012 10:30:37 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Kennard

In Tennessee and Mississippi, those negative Romney (and Newt PAC) ads only ended up helping Santorum at the end. We’ll have to see what happens this time.


11 posted on 03/18/2012 10:30:56 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: VinL
PPP surveyed 506 likely Republican primary voters on March 17th and 18th.

His numbers drop big time right after the media focuses on the “pandemic of pornography” comments found on his web page.

12 posted on 03/18/2012 10:31:17 PM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

That’s what I was thinking also. Why waste time in Peurto Rico when Illinois will be such a pivotal state from here on. May be he needed a vacation in sunny PR?


13 posted on 03/18/2012 10:37:01 PM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans do not hate, that is a monopoly of democrats.)
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To: VinL

Also, just a reminder, the night before AL and MS, PPP had Santorum third in both places, and even lower on the Sunday before. It did not have their desired outcome there and it might not in Illinois, especially in terms of delegates.


14 posted on 03/18/2012 10:38:21 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: Utmost Certainty

A Hydra Is In The Mourning After Pill
OBMACARE is a 1.76 Trillion $ Hydra a 9 headed snake
which Can only be Destroyed By A Firebrand
by L.J .Keslin http://www.theusmat.com

Of the three GOP candidates remaining opposing Mitt Romney . Only one man had the courage to take on a what they call a third rail issue...Eugenics... and has had his character asassinated for it... He’s been pummeled from both sides called , a women hater ,, a religious nut, ..a one trick pony, Santorum could an hour discussing oil and the economy then 10 seconds comenting about pornography but guess what MSM and Santorum detractors will talk about... certainly not ,what’s really in the 1.76 trillion dolllar wonder called Obamacare ,,...!; Population control.... and all that goes with it. Including cost, 1.76 trillion.

To pay off a trillion dollars at $1.00 a second would take 31,564 years. At a billion dollars a second only 995.70 years.(220 days). Not including interest.

Two groups late in the last century led in Eugenic development. The Nazis and the Communists. Few know or remember how the Nazis began. First citing “health risk” “nicht rauchen” baning cigarette smoking, Then terminating Down Syndrome children, and then on to mentally defective children and adults,. then on to besides murdering opponents, races. All done to make the German Reich healthy and last a thousand years.

So you go to the MSM (Main Stream Media) the so called “gate keepers” for information about these things and you find closed gates .. The sorcerers in the media magically reduce a 2000 page Hydra , a Greek legendary nine headed venomous serpent that must be slain by a firebrand ,and morph it into the mourning after pill and a “womans health care issue.”

The “gatekeepers” never tell you that Obamacare bill creators and the Amish are exempt from being in Obamacare. The drafters are on record actually calling it population control and demanding Catholic bishops support it.* Their statements are out there .But not mentioned by the so called gate-keepers but by the AM the alternate media, meaning radio talk shows like Limbaugh’s and websites like Britebart’s Government . Places Obama wants to shut down and will once re-elected *Joel Pollak Britebart Government .

Eugenics explained in common words is this. And it ain’t just b/c pills, condoms, and womens rights. It’s government policy. :You surrender your individuality to the group to advance the greater good of the group. If your unhealthy or too old and you can’t work for the greater good of the group any more, you are disposed of in the way the group decides. If there are too many people , the group decides no more babiys, kill them. Now lets take the word”group” and change it for the word “ state”. Women surrender their rights when they buy into this monstrosity . That is what’s in Obamacare which is deceptively titled “The Affordable Health Care Act”

Yet Obamacom tzars who hail from that foreign land, the deep swamp of Acadamica are all preaching the utopian wonders of Eugenics. Why it’s the final solution (remember him ?) population control. Which is part of the Obamacare package.

Let’s hope Santorum decides not to shy away from this issue miss characterized as only a social issued. It is both a social and financial issue $ 1.75 trillion is in no way a minor expenditure. Population control affects US from the cradle to the grave. .but Santorum can not speakout and act against this despicable movement ? Particularly when that is being shoved on religious groups by the Demo-Coms . Especially when they are ignoring constitutional rights...

Recently private job creation projects rejection by the demo-coms should send a signal to the Republican bleeding heart establishment . “Bi-partisanship” doesn’t exist with sociaists .The GOP’s annointed presidential candidate Mitt Romney. should start realizing Obama is a “socialist”.. Everyone including the monthly liberal magazine Newsweek knows he is but Mr Romney just can’t seem to get around to calling him one/ . Preventing an iron mine in Wisconsin for a desperate area in need of jobs or preventing the Keystone pipeline transfering oil from Canada to American refineries decisions which would have provided employment to thousands and reduced gas prices. was not on the hypenated party (demo-com party agenda.


15 posted on 03/18/2012 10:39:55 PM PDT by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: napscoordinator; VinL

The PPP polling showed Gingrich ahead in MS and AL and we all saw how that went. Santorum wins the late deciders. Yes, Gingrich continues to be a spoiler and the margins of defeat/victory in IL will tell the real story. Gingrich is in this race simply to stay relevant in the news cycle. After his massive defeat in FL, he hasn’t recovered. His “southern strategy” went up in smoke and now his fans with their heads buried in the sand (make that in concrete) are doing their utmost to prop him up by constructing a a Potemkin village all around him.


16 posted on 03/18/2012 10:53:17 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: napscoordinator; VinL

The PPP polling showed Gingrich ahead in MS and AL and we all saw how that went. Santorum wins the late deciders. Yes, Gingrich continues to be a spoiler and the margins of defeat/victory in IL will tell the real story. Gingrich is in this race simply to stay relevant in the news cycle. After his massive defeat in FL, he hasn’t recovered. His “southern strategy” went up in smoke and now his fans with their heads buried in the sand (make that in concrete) are doing their utmost to prop him up by constructing a a Potemkin village all around him.


17 posted on 03/18/2012 10:53:22 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Let’s hope that he gets the late deciders. He has worked very hard for the nomination.....did not spend millions like one and does not think he should be handed it like another.


18 posted on 03/18/2012 11:02:08 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Kennard
The most disingenous way to get the Republican nomination that I have seen in years. Not that I am whining. Just want to make clear that it is even worse than NIXON, this Romney scorched earth personal attack on every conservative Republican with TONS of RINO/WALL STREET cash, and now he says that he is going to be "gentlemanly" with "The President" in the general election. Oh, have we ever been down this same road, like four years ago, into total disaster. Milquetoast RINO vs. unbridled LIB/DEM. with full Media support.

I know how this story goes, and it ain't got a good ending.

19 posted on 03/18/2012 11:03:59 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Free Republic morphs into a supportive site for Romney, I'll conclude my 13 year participation.)
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To: VinL

>> Rick should have cut a deal wt Newt after FLA- instead of going negative on Newt- and splitting conservatives.

LOL. Excellent preemptive.


20 posted on 03/18/2012 11:06:14 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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