[marktwain]

This article is in response to Madison Wisconsin Mayor Dave Cieslewicz' article. The link should be below.

[marktwain]

Here is the link to Citizen Dave’s article:

http://www.thedailypage.com/daily/article.php?article=36189

Here is the link to the freerepublic discussion of the article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2858869/posts

[ClearCase_guy]

The chair is against the wall.

[South Dakota]

Violence is violence. Its the tool you use to do violence. Taking away the gun will not stop the violence. Will you ban knives, baseball bats, hammers and car antennas next? The Columbine killers tried to make use of a twenty pound propane bottle as a bomb. Will you ban propane bottles? DUH!!!!!!

[KeyLargo]

Obama pal, Father 'Flakey' wants toy guns banned. Fr. Michael Pfleger protests toy guns in Easter baskets.

(WGN-TV)

Chicago WGN TV

Report: Walgreens pulls Easter baskets with toy guns from stores

2:01 PM CDT, March 16, 2012

The effort to get toy guns out of Easter baskets has paid off for Fr. Michael Pfleger of St. Sabina’s Catholic Church.

The Chicago Sun-Times reports many Chicago area Walgreens stores have pulled the baskets with plastic water guns or Nerf dart shooters off their shelves.

Pfleger also sent a letter to Kmart asking stores to stop selling the baskets. The retailer says the baskets will not be removed this year, but toy guns will be excluded in the future.

Pfleger says toy guns are no longer appropriate for a generation plagued by rampant gun violence.

[ThunderSleeps]

"The answer is not more silence and even more modest proposals. The answer is not to make nice with the radicals in the NRA.

Oh, I see... His um reasoned (?) response to the "radicals" in the NRA is his own radical proposal? Hypocrisy expressed entirely in one statement. Nice, don't even have to read two sentences by him to see him for what he is. But it gets better.

The answer, for those of us who want to end the gun carnage, is to make bold proposals that pull the debate back in our direction.

Perhaps the most honest thing he wrote. Not completely honest, but the most honest thing. He, and fascists like him, don't give a rat's backside about the "carnage" they perceive (or want you to perceive) is happening. That's the lie part of this statement. However, they do very desperately want to control the terms and bounds of the debate. That was a rare bit of honesty seeping through. However, we cannot let the fascists control the debate. We have to keep truth and perspective out there.

My bold proposal is to simply ban the manufacture, sale and possession of all handguns and automatic weapons everywhere in America. There is just no reason for the existence of these weapons of mass destruction.

Bold? Well, that's one word for it. I might go with a phrase like "laughably stupid" or maybe "anti-freedom fascist" or "pipe dream"... Here he uses still more wild hyperbole with "weapons of mass destruction." Does he know the difference between say a chemical warhead filled with a persistent nerve agent and a Glock with a 15 round magazine? Even if he does, I know he doesn't care - all he wants is to invoke an emotional, fearful response - don't let little things like truth, facts, nor accuracy get in the way.

Their only real purpose is to kill people, and target practice is hardly a good enough reason to have all of this destructive deadly force around. They should be banned."

The fallacy of these statements is breathtakingly complete. If he sees their only purpose as to kill people, he is a remarkably uninformed, unimaginative, and fearful person. If he thinks we, anyone, needs to justify any of our freedoms and liberties with a "good enough reason" then he is embarrassingly ignorant to the principles upon which America was founded. If he thinks his thin, ill-considered justifications for his fascist desire for control over his fellow man will fly, he is sadly mistaken.

If we ever needed a reason to keep and bear arms (and we don't need a reason for an inalienable right) it is right here on the page - to protect ourselves, our freedoms, and our liberties from the likes of this fascist.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

According to DOJ crime statistics, guns are used 2.5-million times per year to prevent robberies, rapes, murders, carjackings, home-invasions, etc., 99% of the time without a shot being fired.

GunFacts.info

My guess is that Dave is one of Eric Holder's people, who believe that crime is a legitimate career path, and armed victims are an OSHA violation.

[blueunicorn6]

Democrats don’t have any problem with guns as long as they get to decide who the guns are pointed at.

[Noumenon]

3 million people, many of whom already own camouflage clothing and can drop a deer at 500 yards.

An Appleseeder Rifleman can take heads at 500 yards. Over iron sights. There are more of us every day.

[Still Thinking]

Of course he blames the Ee-vil Gun Lobby® and spineless politicians for this whole state of affairs, bemoaning the lack of even the smallest and most responsible of gun control measures. His plan of action?

What "lack" would that be?? IIRC there were at last count something like 20,000 laws regulating firearm manufacture, sale, and use in the US. If the "Ee-vil Gun Lobby®" and evil gunowners are working to block anti-rights legislation, they must not be very good at it, or else where did those 20,000 laws come from?

[TigersEye]

So 3% of 105+ million is 3,178,237. So call it 3 million "gun nuts".

3% of American gun owners constitutes a force almost 3X as large as the largest standing army in the world. China's PLA. 3% of us. This is why all the hand wringing about the FedMob disarming the American people is ridiculous. Sure, we should vigorously oppose gun control measures whenever they pop up. But disarming us all isn't going to happen.

[EternalVigilance]

"There is just no reason for the existence of these weapons of mass destruction. Their only real purpose is to kill people"

Amazing how much this petty tyrant sounds like the Republican "frontrunner."

Romney signs off on permanent assault weapons ban

"Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts," Romney said..."These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."