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Shots fired at Chardon High school in N.E. Ohio [One dead]
Reegs

Posted on 02/27/2012 5:21:58 AM PST by reegs

No link yet. Breaking on local news. Prayers up for families effected. 3-4 students shot.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: chardon; schoolshooting; shooting; vanity
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To: fanfan
So High School kids from Hudson wouldn’t be at this school?

No, they wouldn't. Hudson is an awesome school, by the way.
101 posted on 02/27/2012 11:55:24 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: patriot08
Where did you find these?

If that is his room at home, the room is a clue in itself. It appears to be essentially "sterile" or "institutional" in appearance: plain, institutional iron bedstead, no pictures or anything personal on the walls, little sign of anything personal in the room at all. If nothing else, it appears to me to be evidence of a mentally dreary existence...

Dead, hopeless eyes...

Whacked-out kid... How sad!

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FWIW, the revolver appears to be a single action (.45?).

The pistol appears to be a semiauto 9mm (Beretta?)

The middle word on the "sign": "Magazine"? (I enhanced it but the printing is so cramped and scrawly, this reading is only a guess.)

According to the news folks on the scene, no one appearing to be a parent or parents has yet showed up at the Sheriff's office where the kid is being held -- and that says volumes...

Thanks for sharing the photos!

102 posted on 02/27/2012 12:01:00 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Altariel
"The traditional model is the one in which both husband AND wife were at home"

Take a look out the window in Nature; the Father/Male is the provider, the Mother/Female is the "Nurturer".

Regarding the "Pioneer" days, where farmers were nearly all that existed, the females/wives were tending to the children in the house, while the Father/Male was in the fields. When the children were old enough, they ALL went to the fields. In the case of storekeepers, the Mother/Female would live upstairs, and work in the store ONLY if the children were with her, or, she was upstairs with the small ones.

The necissity-forced situation during WWII was the change, but ONLY when there were no small children left alone at home. In the old "Loco Parentis" legal terms, the School was responsible, as an "acting parent" when women worked, and were HOME when their children were home.

You're probably not old enough to have seen it.

103 posted on 02/27/2012 12:01:50 PM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: TXnMA

I thought it said ‘massacre’ but I didn’t enlarge it.


104 posted on 02/27/2012 12:26:53 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: TXnMA

My thoughts as well.

Middle word is “massacre” from what I can tell.

Not sure what the word starting with “0” is - omegle? Onegle?


105 posted on 02/27/2012 12:38:05 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3; patriot08
"I thought it said ‘massacre’ but I didn’t enlarge it."

Looked back at it. I believe you're more likely right than I was. Thanks!

The initials of the boy who died are supposedly, "D. P.". Wonder if another of the victims has the initials, "R. ("D"?) F."...

I saw the interview with the boy who was nicked on the ear. He needs to get medical attention and check in with law enforcement. Like it or not, he is now evidence -- in addition to being an eyewitness...

106 posted on 02/27/2012 12:48:08 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: chrisser

IIRC Columbine was in a decent neighborhood also.


107 posted on 02/27/2012 12:50:51 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: patriot08

Get ready. I clicked on his supposed facebook link and it listed as interests,surfing,meditation...TEA PARTIES.
Heads up Sarah Palin!


108 posted on 02/27/2012 1:12:11 PM PST by americas.best.days...
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To: traditional1

I’m not talking about pioneer days. I’m talking about human experience for most of recorded history. Where were the parents? In most cases, they were working in (or near, in the case of fields, lakes, etc) the home.

There was a shift in how things happened after the industrial revolution, but that does not make that family model “traditional”. The post-industrial revolution model may have been the one in which you were raised, but that doesn’t make it “traditional”.

Traditionally, the father practiced his occupation (or trade) in (or near) his home. The mother helped her husband (as appropriate) in his occupation/trade because their survival depended on working together.

If you support the post-industrial revolution family dynamic, that’s fine, but don’t claim that dynamic is “traditional”. It’s not.


109 posted on 02/27/2012 1:14:52 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: americas.best.days...

His facebook page has been taken down.


110 posted on 02/27/2012 1:31:16 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: Altariel
OK; you win.

My being the bread-winner and taking pride in being able to free my wife from having to work outside the home (and do the child-rearing, and home organization, and etc.) is not "Traditional", in your book.

In mine, that's the natural order of things, and my wife is AT LEAST 50% responsible for all that we've had and have, and our perspective is based on those values.

111 posted on 02/27/2012 1:31:30 PM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: reegs; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...

A sad day for this Ohio ping.


112 posted on 02/27/2012 2:13:11 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("All 57 or is it 58 states must stand together and defeat O-bozo. VOTE HIM OUT!!")
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To: traditional1

Nice try, but no cookie for you. Go back, read what I wrote in its entirety (maybe have your wife read it to you) and then come back with a response. Or don’t. Makes no difference to me. I’m correct in my statement (it its entirety) and I won’t defend my words that are taken out of context.


113 posted on 02/27/2012 2:15:51 PM PST by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"A teenager described as an outcast at a suburban Cleveland high school opened fire in the cafeteria Monday, killing one student and wounding four others before being caught a short distance away, authorities said.
A student who saw the attack close-up said it appeared that the gunman targeted a group of students sitting at a cafeteria table and that the one who was killed was trying to duck under the table."

If the targeted group was the bullies, the media is being careful not to say so.

114 posted on 02/27/2012 3:17:49 PM PST by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: Las Vegas Dave; reegs

You never know what a day will bring.

I was subbing in an elementary school today, where I have subbed many times. The teacher in the room just adjacent to mine - it’s almost like a divided classroom so we are just earshot away - got a call around 8:30 a.m. and I could hear her just crying out in emotional pain, with words such as “Oh God, NO” and so on.

It was so heartwrenching, I knew something horrific had happened and immediately began praying. I walked in to see her and she said, “My nephew has been shot. He’s in Chardon.”

I didn’t even know there had been a school shooting. This teacher told me her sister had just phoned to say that the fire department had called HER to come immediately to Metro (Metro General Hospital is our best trauma hospital) and that her son had been life-flighted there.

This poor teacher was shaking like a leaf and kept saying, “What will my sister do?” I asked her if I could pray with her and she said okay. I held out my hand to her and another teacher who, by now, had walked in as well. I prayed. We tried to comfort her and yet another teacher came in to offer to ride with her to Metro where she could meet her sister.

Sometime later...not sure when exactly, but it was probably around 11 a.m., one of the teachers from across the hall came into the room and looked at me with tears in her eyes. She just shook her head from side to side.

It was very difficult to hold in the emotions from the children in my room.

All I can say is this event, which happened to strangers, has now come into my own orbit.

There is so much darkness in our culture (and our world). I see it everyday as a teacher. Just darkness. When will people wake up and see that our children are killing each other. It’s not because of bullying or anything else. It’s because our children have nothing to hope for any more. Our culture has become so secular that children are told to put their faith in everything BUT the one thing that will give them strength, faith, courage, hope, AND love.

I just had to write on here. I can still see the anguish in that aunt’s face. I cannot even fathom what her family is going through now.


115 posted on 02/27/2012 3:22:32 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: RFEngineer
Boy, a lot of defensiveness on my comment.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yes, you are right. I did overreact.

Please understand that homeschoolers are sensitive about Andrea Yates. We've been beaten over the head with her case for years now.

One of the arguments that the defenders of our nation's socialist schools use is **child abuse**. They seen sooooooo concerned about possible child abuse of homeschoolers stating that government school institutionalization would prevent that. ...But....Then when it comes to the daily reports about the abuse found among children institutionalized for their schooling in our socialist schools, they shrug.

The hypocrisy of the socialist school defenders just sets my teeth on edge.

116 posted on 02/27/2012 3:56:17 PM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: reegs

A second victim has died

http://www.woio.com/story/17024182/chardon-high-school-shooting-rampage


117 posted on 02/27/2012 4:32:53 PM PST by boxerblues
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To: boxerblues

Read this a few hours ago but didn’t want to post until confirmed.

:(


118 posted on 02/27/2012 4:59:16 PM PST by bonfire
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3; patriot08
One of the boys shot today had the initials, "R. K.":

"A friend, Nate Mueller, said Russell [King] had begun dating a former girlfriend of T.J. Lane, the suspected shooter. But Nate said there was no indication that Russell's relationship with the girl was a motive in the shooting."

http://www.cleveland.com/chardon-shooting/index.ssf/2012/02/chardon_shooting_victim_russel.html

119 posted on 02/27/2012 5:04:12 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA

How very, very sad, and so unnecessary.

Praying for all the families of the victims, and for the grandparents of the shooter, who were raising him.

I just don’t understand the level of violence and the depth of despair of our young people.

Something is missing from their lives.


120 posted on 02/27/2012 5:20:33 PM PST by GracieOMalley
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