Posted on 02/01/2012 7:17:02 PM PST by Sallyven
[snip]...Jablonski remained true to his word -- neither he nor Obama showed up for the January 26 hearing. I noted last week that Obama was not scheduled to be anywhere near Atlanta on the date of the hearing, although I had wondered if still, perhaps, Georgia might be on his mind. According to reports in the blogosphere, the president's schedule on the morning of the 26th was open, and according to an unnamed source, Obama watched the live feed of the hearings.
Perhaps Obama, as well as the several mainstream media news outlets I spotted at the hearing, were merely watching in hopes that the "crazy birthers" would really do something...well, crazy. Or unlawful. In fact, though, it was the president himself and his defense team who were the ones defying the rule of law.
The mainstream media, in lockstep with Obama, reported nothing of the events, in a stunning blackout on a truly historic hearing -- one that discussed the eligibility of a sitting president to run for a second term. And more troubling was the fact that the media failed to acknowledge the even more sensational news -- that the president and his defense attorney snubbed an official subpoena.
Today, Attorney Van Irion, on behalf of his client, Georgia resident David Welden, filed a "Motion for Finding of Contempt" with Judge Malihi...
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Logic and the English language dictate that your absolutist statement—Natural Born Citizen has ALWAYS meant Citizen at the Moment of Birth— is FALSE.
Re-read the passage from Minor v. Happersett. It is not definitive and leaves the subject open.
It is entirely CONSTITUTIONAL, therefore, for CONGRESS to define such terms. Courts, for many years, had to resort to Common Law for a definition of citizenship, itself.
Then, legislation was passed by Congress as to what requirements had to be met, to be a Citizen at Birth.
Hamilton shot another founder in a dual. Adams and Jefferson hated each other.
Our Founders, more than likely, disagreed on many citizenship issues.
This is WHY the definition of citizenship was left to Congress.
born May 28, 1971 in Miami, FL (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Parents were
Mario Rubio born in Cuba, naturalized Nov. 5, 1975.
Oria Garcia born in Cuba, naturalized Nov. 5, 1975.
Parents were NOT US Citizens at the time of his birth (Does NOT meet the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)
Marco Rubio is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
Marco's status is the same as that of Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama, who is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
It contains INCLUSIVE language, and excludes NOBODY, does it?
Yes, such people are NBC’s but it does not say that those WITHOUT two citizen parents are NOT Natural Born if born on US Soil.
WOW! - like, can I have an autograph or wash your feet with my hair or something?
Seeing such wide agreement on this issue, I assume that if the SCOTUS were to rule on the NBC (not the TV network, dummy!) it would, I guess, rule to please the establishment, avoid rocking the boat, so that Soetero, just off the boat from Indonesia, can be declared to be the same boat as George Bush, i.e. a NBC.
Evidence and claims by those that deny this are very weak. They quote cases with no relevance just to confuse the issue.
Just because you shout it over & over doesn't make history, or Supreme Court precedence disappear.
Obama is ineligible. Always was, always will be. That is just a FACT.
Thank you once again for injecting a measure of sanity in the discussion!
JC
Dear Leader’s father was never a US citizen and was over 21 when zero was born. His mother was 17, not 21 so he does not seem to have a path to citizenship, even if born in Hawaii. There has been no credible evidence that he was born in Hawaii and no laws to say that babies born in the US to foreign parents are US citizens, otherwise known as anchor babies. This is just case law not backed up by congressional law. Most lawyers I have known were more dishonest, manipulative and destructionist in their beliefs as any group of people I have ever known, so congrats.
Special Report with Bret Baier - Fox News covered it a little.
“For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.”
That is, for the purposes of the case of Minor, a female seeking the privilege to vote.
Now is the time to settle the case for the purposes of Obama, the son of a British subject seeking the privilege to be president of the United States.
I am glad to hear that. I wonder how it will be covered if Obama’s name is dropped from the Georgia ballot?
born May 28, 1971 in Miami, FL (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Parents were
Mario Rubio born in Cuba, naturalized Nov. 5, 1975.
Oria Garcia born in Cuba, naturalized Nov. 5, 1975.
Parents were NOT US Citizens at the time of his birth (Does NOT meet the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)
Marco Rubio is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
Marco's status is the same as that of Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama, who is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
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“Incidentally, since my mother was born in Canada, I am not a natural born citizen either.”
Just to clarify for those reading your post. I don’t know what your NBC status is, but your mother being born in Canada does not necessarily make you ineligible.
***It was her U.S. citizenship status at the time of your birth***,
not her place of birth. Very different.
I’m sure that’s what you meant.
“Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at the moment of Birth, and NOTHING ELSE.”
The founders were pretty smart and thoroughly analyzed every word and concept in the draft Constitution, so if you are correct they would have merely required one to be a citizen, not a natural born citizen. Moreover, they were legitimately concerned about potentially divided loyalties of the commander in chief. You are wrong!
JC
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