Posted on 01/30/2012 8:06:46 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
HARRISBURG, Pa. (CBS) - The state capitol was the scene of two events promoting distinctly different ways of changing the way Pennsylvanias presidential electoral votes are awarded.
Actor and former Senator and former Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson is part of a bi-partisan effort to create a compact agreement among states to award all of their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote, no matter who wins the state vote for president.
(Excerpt) Read more at philadelphia.cbslocal.com ...
This is the death of the republic.
It would be an abomination for the results of one state’s vote to decide the selection of another state’s elected representatives—and make no mistake—Presidential Electors are elected representatives. It would be no different from a state implementing a law which said a state’s governor would be determined by which party won the majority of governorships that year.
Allocating Electors based on some method which proportional to the state’s votes, such as Maine’s and Nebraska’s Congressional District system remains true to the concept of the Electoral College, but solves many of the limitations, while still creating a clear and defendable winner. Other proportional systems such as the 2004 Colorado proposal have challenges.
Speaking of enemies inside the wire, I watched Red Dawn last night.
It was an interesting story they told about how the invasion was facilitated by illegals.
I live in Washington State where it is accepted practice for democrats to magically find boxes full of ballots for weeks after an election that they have not won. Eliminating the electoral college would guarantee their control on a national scale. Thompson should call his idea the ACORN amendment.
If the popular vote initiative was ever instituted, states like VT, NH, NM, NV, AZ, MT, ND, SD, etc., would NEVER see a presidential candidate.
We would see NYC, LA, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc., electing the president.
Fly-over country would be completely ignored.
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Thank goodness the Thompson bandwagon crashed in 2008.
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Where do most liberals live?
NYC, LA, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc.
Co-inky-dink?
Fixed.
The original point of the electoral college system was the idea that it was better to have a president who was moderately liked all over the country, to a president whose support was intense but limited to just a few locations.
You mean:
And I thought he was intelligent. My mistake. He doesnt realize that eliminating the Electoral College would allow the states with most inner city vote fraud to control who will be president.
In rural Indiana, we have a saying for what Fred can do to himself (and the horse he rode in on).
“so screwed if we lose the Electoral College”..You are absolutely 100% correct! This would mean the “Left Coast” and the Urban centers of the East would control the presidential elections. Somebody must be paying Thompson for his support on this.
Fred Thompson now wants to disenfranchise the small states? WTF?
ONLY someone with no appreciation for our history would want mob rule....which is what a popular vote only national election would be!
I really am concerned, folks, that we are forgetting about the 10th amendment and states rights in our urge to blast “tyranny”.
The enemy has been well entrenched since Teddy Roosevelt. What you are seeing today is their reaction to being rejected.....just look at the temper tantrum known as bloody Thursday. If there was any doubt before it's long gone now.
It's Time to Junk the Electoral College We don't need an amendment to do it. -Jonathan Soros
The fate of the Free World would be determined by Yankees and Lakers fans.
Two problems (among others) Fred:
1. The electoral college confines the damage of fraud to a local area. For instance, if unions are packing the ballot boxes in Chicago, the most damage they can do is to the Illinois electoral vote. But under this plan, if they can control Chicago ballot boxes, they can control the nation.
2. This is just a precursor to a federal voting rights standard. Right now, your state can check voter IDs or ban violent felons from voting, etc. If this electoral college override scheme is implemented, you can bet the ACLU will quickly file suit to require “uniform national” voting laws.
One more blow to the federal republic.
This is the progressive response to the 2000 election.
Every time they don’t like the results, they try to change the rules. They’re constantly tinkering with the system to get the results they want.
Trust me, the first time this “National Popular Vote” scheme fails to elect a Democrat, you can bet the progs will be in court complaining that it “isn’t fair” and needs to be “modified” by a court ruling.
I like Fred too, but this makes me glad that he didn’t make it out of the Republican Primaries.
Okay, kids. One more time. We need a second party!
What amazes me with that map is the number of states with small populations that are FOR it.
Do that not realize that they are basically giving away any influence they have in national elections?
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