Posted on 01/26/2012 5:55:04 AM PST by RaceBannon
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RummyChick. Why doesn’t it say in the affirmed that Wong Kim Ark is a ‘natural born Citizen’?
I am glad to see we won this one, but I'm not going to apologize for my pessimism. Nowadays it seems that it is a miracle when a court actually gets something RIGHT.
Now we need to duplicate this effort in more states.
There's valuable currency in being a king-maker and powerbroker, for sure, controlling the sum total of GA's electors!
HF
The ‘turn your head and cough’ president...
Given the whole Man’s Country thing... that comment is downright hysterical! LMAO
All others cases were never permitted to begin. This is not losing on merits, this is losing on technicalities, which in my opinion is nothing but a denial of due process.
I’m just reading ... try this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2838347/posts
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If I was arguing against Obama that is exactly what I would say. And I think it can be easily swatted away. Just as the Court of Appeals did in the Ankey case. It is quite possible that the Judges in that case never read the brief by the appellent.
However, that is not to say your argument wouldn’t get through to someone.
But the fact is that Gray’s ruling is that the 14th Amendment is declaratory . It outlines natural born citizenship since that is what was before them in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BRIEF. They were presented an argument that the lower court was in error when THEY RULED: Ark was a natural born citizen.
I think many who post on this subject have NEVER even bothered to read the briefs or the lower court case.
You can’t run away from the fact that the question before them as presented by the appellent was that Ark was a natural born citizen as ruled by the lower court.
It is not the first time the phrase natural born citizen has come up. It did with the Look Tin Sing case that was used as controlling authority in the lower court case of Ark.
Common Law Doctrine as outlined in the lower court case and the SCOTUS decision show that Ark was a natural born citizen.
I don’t understand why you people don’t recognize this. Justice Fuller did and disagreed with the Majority.
I think the attorney today must have recognized something because it appeared to me he was trying to differentiate from Wong instead of embracing Wong as the lead case to determine if Obama is a citizen.
Which is the most I've posted on the subject in months. It doesn't negate what I said.
I'm waiting till he publishes the default judgement as fact before celebrating.
Perhaps you should heed your own words before you tell others what to do.
Read the Court of Appeals case of Ankey.
So here it tis...
Steve Ankeny and Bill Kruse v. Governor of the State of Indiana
The Court held that Mr. Wong Kim Ark was a citizen of the United States at the time of his birth.14
Footnote 14 We note the fact that the Court in Wong Kim Ark did not actually pronounce the plaintiff a natural born Citizen using the Constitution‟s Article II language is immaterial. For all but forty-four people in our nation‟s history (the forty-four Presidents), the dichotomy between who is a natural born citizen and who is a naturalized citizen under the Fourteenth Amendment is irrelevant. The issue addressed in Wong Kim Ark was whether Mr. Wong Kim Ark was a citizen of the United States on the basis that he was born in the United States.
Even while Ark distinctly stated that the question was if he was a citizen "by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution".
IANAL, but it seems to me the cases will be kept separate, and something that was not under dispute in one case does not imply it was not avalailable to be disputed in another case.
Sven is just trying to dishearten us, IMHO.
HF
Sven is my favorite birther.
Shout out!
Oh, you.
That wasn’t the issue before the court and thus why I said that the Judges probably didn’t read the brief by the APPELLENT who was THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Look, SERIOUSLY, you are doing your cause disservice by refusing to understand Wong. Understand what it stands for and try to find reasons that could be argued as to why it should be overturned.
It was a BAD CASE. BAD LAW. BAD DECISIONS. BAD JUDGES.
Anyone who goes before a court and says that Wong follows Vattel will just look like an idiot. The lower court even mentions that they can’t follow Vattel.
Their decision AFFIRMED WITHOUT EXCEPTION.
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