Romney gave $4 Million donations to Mormon Church. Do Mormons help the poor with these donations?

January 24, 2012 | Ralph Mitchell

[mitchell001]

On his income taxes released today, we see that Romney gave $4 Million tithe donations to Mormon Church. Do Mormons help poor Americans with these donations? Do the Mormons have something similar to Catholic Charities, which helps thousands of Americans (both Catholic and non-Catholics) with basic life needs, medical help, childcare help, education help, etc. The main question is do Mormons use the $4 Million from Romney to ONLY advance the Mormon religion without helping the American poor. Does Romney even know or care what the Mormon Church does with his $4 Million donation? I think that is a fair question.

[Elsie]

Wherever you place Mormonism on the religious spectrum, a believer thereof can function in a respectful manner in politics.

You are absolutely right.

But so what?

You would NOT give the Aryan Brotherhood a pass - nor the Black Panthers; no matter HOW well behaved they were.

[Elsie]

Here’s a hint. I’ve been here maybe a couple of months and nearly every other day there is a mormon bashing thread.

Here’s a FACT:

Any place that a MORMON has the nerve to start spouting any of their HERESY will turn in to a BASH.

Bold
ANTIs
Spotlighting
Heresy

[Elsie]

Here’s another one FACT:

2 Corinthians 11:12

And I will keep on doing what I am doing

 in order to cut the ground from under those

who want an opportunity to be considered equal

with us in the things they boast about.

 

[Elsie]

I never said that, Elsie.

You are correct.

I just didn't want you to miss the smarmy comparison between the two buildings.

[Loud Mime]

Actually, it’s what ALL religions do. It’s a war of pride, nothing else.

I had to look up curelom.

Hatred of a specific religious group is not good for a soul,
and, as proven in WWII and the 9-11 attacks, not good for anybody.

But those whose hatred has consumed their souls have no ability
to turn back. Pride is directing them.

[Elsie]

Actually, it’s what ALL religions do.

No; it is NOT 'what all religions do'.

T. S. Eliot has said: "The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the wrong reason."

[Elsie]

Hatred of a specific religious group is not good for a soul...

Am I reading this right; that you think all religions are equal; or at least should be treated equally?

[zerosix]

Right you are (condemning those who leave) the only ones who do are not religions but cults, oh and that other Satanic cult, the Islamists who slice off your head for quitting.

[stuartcr]

Yes. ...Harmless

[stuartcr]

Yes. ...Harmless

[ontap]

Great ! Good biblical quotes! Changes nothing about my original post as to the main function of Christianity.

[RinaseaofDs]

“Your statement: Either we have religious freedom in the US, or we don’t.”

Tithing is a religious principle, and it is biblically based (New Testament). A tenth of the harvest goes to the Lord, and you keep the rest.

By attacking Romney’s contributions to his Church he’s assailing one of the fundamental tenents of his religion. Not a bogus charge, it’s just an ignorance of the topic at hand on your part.

The entire post deals with Romney’s contribution and what the Church does with it. It’s none of anybody’s business but, Romney’s, the LDS Church, and God’s.

Under 1A, he gets not only to believe what he wants, but IN THE WAY HE WANTS TO, so long as it doesn’t impact another person’s right to worship they way they want. This is what Jefferson meant by, “It neither breaks my back, nor picks my pocket, what another man beieves.”

Tithing, obviously, is a biblically established form of relgious devotion. I’m dismayed that I have to spell that out.

[svcw]

You know very little to nothing of mormonISM do you.

Your statement It’s none of anybody’s business but, Romney’s, the LDS Church, and God’s.

Just to clarify how SLC lds leaders view it:

It’s none of anybody’s business but, Romney’s, the LDS Church , and God’s.

Tithing in mormonISM is tied to salvation - that IS NOT a Biblical principle.

mormonISM is not Biblical.

Tithing in mormonISM MUST be verified by a man.

[RinaseaofDs]

If you think Mormonism is bad, then pray for inspiration and plant seeds and be confident that the Holy Spirit will follow with other tillers of the soil.

However you regard it, it’s a faith, and since we are talking about rights under the Constitution of the US, and not about what the one true faith actually is, my point stands.

Again, I will take a Mormon over members of many other different faiths I’ve encountered. Fine, upstanding people and pillars of their communities.

[svcw]

You assume I do not pray for my mormon friends and family, wrong assumption.
Constitution? Do not even know where you are going here. NO ONE has said mormons can not practice what they want. (Really, it is a ridiculous argument.)
Again, you know little to nothing about mormonISM. mormons are not who they appear to be, they have a wonderful SLC PR machine however.
(As a side note I do not consider either Romney or Reid fine upstanding members of their communities, and they BOTH are temple worthy mormons, which are only the highest of the high - 15% only make it there.)
The best thing for you to do is find out about mormonISM since you apparently are comfortable defending mormonISM.

[Sea Parrot]

As for Mormons only helping their own, I beg to differ.

I knew my friend very well when he related this story to me in 1966.

Fresh from back east, engine trouble had used up most of their savings. he was out of work, could not find a job, with a wife and two children was homeless. They had been living in the car for several days beside a canal outside Phoenix, AZ. He had noticed a local farmer driving by and looking several times. Later the farmer stopped and they discussed the predicament my friend found himself in.

The farmer later came back with several men and talked to him. They explained they were Mormons, would ask nothing in return, but wanted to help him and his family. They got them an apt with a months rent, paid the utilities and bought food, he said not once did they talk about the Mormon faith and etc. My friend found a job within a week, one of the first things he did was to begin repaying the Mormons for the good deed they had done.

Now so far as I knew, he was non-religious, if not a downright atheist. Having witnessed it first hand one day, I saw there was one thing he would not tolerate, and that was trash talk about Mormons. Being the big strapping fella he was, he did get physically rough with two guys who went too far that time.

[MarkBsnr]

Maybe as a Catholic you should wander onto the Mormon threads once in awhile and find out what they really believe about Catholicism. It ain’t pretty.

Absolutely correct. And they'll lie to your face, no matter how well or how long you know them regarding their beliefs, practices or thoughts on any Christian, not just Catholics. Check out the mutant Masonic aprons and signs, grips and passwords, if you require more convincing.

[RinaseaofDs]

“Again, you know little to nothing about mormonISM. mormons are not who they appear to be, they have a wonderful SLC PR machine however.
(As a side note I do not consider either Romney or Reid fine upstanding members of their communities, and they BOTH are temple worthy mormons, which are only the highest of the high - 15% only make it there.)
The best thing for you to do is find out about mormonISM since you apparently are comfortable defending mormonISM.”

So . . . . this ISN’T a Mormon bashing thread.

Ah. Glad I got that straight.

I would submit that every Church in every nation on any given Sundary (or Saturday if you are an Adventist) is full to the rafters with broken, hypocritical people.

I would submit that each and every single one fall short of the Salvation that comes through, and only through Jesus Christ.

As such, I know enough about every single one of the Christian religions out there. We are a fallen and corrupt people, completely unworthy of the glory of God.

As to the individual status of any one of those churchgoers, I would like to be placed at the end of the list of people we examine in public next, if you please.

[reaganaut]

However, Mormons are not Christians - their theology prevents them from being so. That is a simple fact I would gladly back up biblically and based upon my expereience (see tagline). Mormons need our prayers that their eyes will be opened and they will leave Mormonism for a relationship with the Real Jesus, not the false one Mormonism teaches.

Regarding tithing - my gripe with Mormon tithing is that it is coerced, not joyfully given, it is spiritual blackmail and used to line the coffers and business interests of the LDS organization. My gripe is that people are lied to by their own church, give over 10% as required to get to heaven and the money is used to make the leadership wealthier. My problem is it further a cult, not a legitimate church.