Posted on 01/23/2012 2:38:27 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
All four remaining GOP candidates have been confirmed for tonight's debate sponsored by NBC News, the Tampa Bay Times, The National Journal and the Florida Council of 100. The debate will take place at the University of South Florida in Tampa. This will be the first of 2 debates this week focusing on the Florida GOP primary on Tuesday, January 31st. Note the air times on the east and west coast.
Television Air Time: Monday, January 23rd at 9pm ET, 8pm CT and 9pm PT on NBC
Live Streams: (airing 9pm ET) NBCPolitics.com, National Journal, and TampaBay.com
Participants: Gingrich, Romney, Santorum, Paul
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Romney WAS repeating himself, the same terms he no doubt rehearsed. But he was getting no traction, and really appeared unhinged.
Given the option of arguing with a lunatic, or waving him off, I think Newt chose well. He definitely scored with his Medicare response. And maybe diffused the Freddie issue a wee bit by pointing out some of these GSE programs have done good. <——Translation; lots of you folks would not have gotten homes were it not for Freddie.
Newt did come off tired though. OTOH, ‘calm, reserved Newt’ might unfortunately be perceived as “tired”.
I’d be more sympathetic to the anti-Newt folks if they’d actually bother to source their vacuous allegations.
There’s only so many times one can definitively refute claims like 1) Newt was a lobbyist, 2) Newt supports cap & trade, 3) Newt’s a progressive Wilsonian so on, so forth.
It just becomes an irritating distraction to constantly have threads derailed and cluttered by shills who are either incapable or unwilling to argue with facts.
What I want to know is how someone who has run for office 26 times(?) can claim he’s not a career politician. It’s certainly not been for lack of trying!
I have a question here, probably for tomorrow if anyone comes by this thread then, as it is very late tonight:
Is it my imagination, or is Ron Paul AFRAID of Iran, in much the same way many Euro pols were afraid of Hitler in the 1930’s? They could have stopped him, but were afraid it’d be costly / messy, not realizing how much worse it would be, soon enough.
There appears to be an effort to rev it up again now. It’s despicable.
LOL. Well he’s NOT a politician. He’s just an unsuccessful politician wannabe.LOL.
I don't think so. He's too old to be afraid of anything anymore :) IMO, he's just a naive isolationist. Which is really too bad because a lot of his domestic positions are spot on. He's best when he's channeling von Mises and Hayek, and discussing monetary policy and Austrian Business-Cycle Theory.
Yeh. I just felt his response was not as good as usual. But it was ok. I was glad when they moved on.
Santorum was there for her death and the family was grateful but I believe that Rick and other GOP politicians passed meaningless symbolic legislation in DC that did nothing to save Terri’s life.
The GOP political machine including the National Right To Life Committee weren’t ready to risk political capital to intervene in her case with real action.
For a lesson from history, JFK sent federal marshals, prison guards and border agents to protect civil rights protestors in Montgomery, Alabama in May of 1961.
A mob was attacking a church they were in and the federal force held them off barely. JFK was ready to send in federal troops to save the lives of the civil rights protestors but then the governor of Alabama took action declaring martial law and sending in the National Guard to get the mob to back off.
That should have been the model for Jeb Bush and George W. Bush in dealing with saving Terri’s life.
Thanks for outlining that. I lived through it and could not believe my eyes as the old line GOP did NOT support this man.
Perhaps. But Rep. Paul was saying (essentially) that Iran was too big for us to take on, and that bothered me. They’ll be a lot “bigger”, and bolder, when they have nukes.
Well, I suspect Ron Paul would be willing to take out the Iranian Central Bank, or any other central bank for that matter, but that’s probably as far as his foreign intervention would ever go.
BookMark
Hell be Newts Chief of Soon-to-be-Ex Staff.
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No way could Perry be an effective CoS to a Prez. That requires having extensive ties to all the dog droppings inside the beltway and media.
Perry would better fit being Scty. of Agri, Energy or Interior. He served as Commish of Agri in TX at one time and comes from a farming/ranching background; PLUS, he’s against biofuel made from food crops. ....JMO
True
and they are given an expedited path to citizenship
What do you mean by "expedited" ???
Newt’s high negatives were a construct of endless smears by the MSM, who made him out to be the personification of evil. Do you remember how they cut down a clip of Newt commenting on the GOP plan to let the Health Care Financing Administration “wither on the vine?” The Dems took it out of context to scare seniors into thinking that Newt wanted to abolish Medicare.
If Newt can continue to connect directly with the people, his negatives will go down. Newt was the Palin of the 90s, and was attacked relentlessly by the libs.
He was. The key word they used over and over again was "heartless" to describe him.
Saw that one coming...along with everyone else on the thread. LOL!
Good zot! :)
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