A really cool mascot like a fire breathing dragon.
Posted on 01/17/2012 11:00:16 AM PST by US Navy Vet
..toast? And if so what(if any) organization(s) will replace it?
So, you’ll be electing OBAMA, then?? EXACTLY LIKE HE WANTS YOU TO?
The “Alternative” is going to be the OBAMA-FUNDED “AmericansUnited” 3rd party run by Alan Simpson.
Podesta ADMITTED this just last night, to DIVIDE YOUR VOTE, and make sure Obama wins.
Are you REALLY THAT STUPID? (Democrats think you are!)
I am not voting for Romney no matter what also. The GOP has taken the conservative vote for granted too much. We won't be the wife who keeps going back to a husband her beats her. Conservatives are the majority in the party. 40% of people considers themselves conservative nationally. I am dedicated to my country and the constitution NOT a political party. “establishment”/ GOP/RNC are the ones going rouge or should I say taking a sharp left. As Reagan said, the party left me, I did not leave them. I really believe if Romney is elected a true conservative will run third party.
The term is actually heroine.
Before we can have a conservative party we need to have a discussion on what exactly it means to be conservative. I look forward to such a discussion since many seem to be confused on this. I would argue that fidelity to the US Constitution coupled with Judao/Christian morals off set by classical liberalism forms the core of that is means to be an American Conservative.
“classical liberalism “??
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This - from a true Paulbot liberal.
“The GOP is not going to BE toast, it already IS toast, and it has been for some time.”
Those are your own words, and I disagree with them entirely. you can’t deny what you said, if you were trying to tell me a joke, well I guess you could have written it better. Saying that the GOP is toast means giving up on it.
“The GOP is not going to BE toast, it already IS toast, and it has been for some time.”
Those are your own words, and I disagree with them entirely. you can’t deny what you said, if you were trying to tell me a joke, well I guess you could have written it better. Saying that the GOP is toast means giving up on it.
A really cool mascot like a fire breathing dragon.
Classical liberalism is the philosophy committed to the ideal of limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and liberty of individuals including freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and free markets.
I said you are a Paulbot liberal. And you took no offense at that. Yet you chose to define classic liberalism. Whatever.
Def: A political belief in which primary emphasis is placed on securing the freedom of the individual by limiting the power of the state. In its economic form, it advocates a respect for private property and free markets.
It depends on whether or not those who are disatisfied with the GOP POTUS nominee, among the GOP grass roots, ignore the fact that the entire House of Representatives is up for re-election, as well as a number of Senate seats, and if they also ignore the fact that they can still work doubly hard for their favorites in the elections for those seats, and thus at least have the means to try to affect those election outcomes and by doing so still be a force to be reconned with, even if the GOP POTUS nominee wins, and even if it is not their choioce at the GOP convention.
If the GOP grass roots wants, it can hold it’s nose when pulling the lever for POTUS, while meanwhile have been working vigourously for a GOP Congressional majority that is more theirs and not a rubber stanp for ANY POTUS, even one wearing a GOP label.
They can work for candidates who are seeking to grasp their coat-tails (the GOP grass-root’s coat-tails), as they increasingly did in 2010, making it difficult for even a GOP POTUS to be too “moderate”.
Rome was not built in a day, and a Conservative majority, in Ronald Reagan style will not be built by giving up.
The present “leader” is a “leader” of a GOP minority that is besting a fractured GOP majority that is not theirs. If some Conservative candidates had been willing to put their egos aside, and a couple other GOP governors had been willing to enter the fray, GOP Conservatives (still a majority when you add up all those not voting for “the leader” each time) could have had one candidate to support most of all.
If that trend continues, Conservatives need to organize and work doubly hard in the Congressional races and vote for any POTUS who is not Obama.
here is a youtube on classic liberalism http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU-8Uz_nMaQ
"Those are your own words, and I disagree with them entirely. You can’t deny what you said. If you were trying to tell me a joke, well I guess you could have written it better."
PS - Did you even READ the rest of my post?
2008 we all heard the exact same thing, "what's the difference if McCain is our candidate". No way McCain would have ever even thought of doing half of what Barry has been up to and no way he'd have ever spent half as much money.
As is often said...
Ron Paul is to the Constitution as Fred Phelps is to the Bible.
And I would add... as Donald Trump is to political wisdom.
I swear; you Paultards are worse than the Trump for President FReepers we had back 6-7 months ago. At least Trump did no harm to serious Conservatives.
Don’t you realize Romney is using Paul as a useful idiot to send Santorum, Gingrich, Perry, et al polling mumbers down to single digits - all the while knowing that Paul has no chance? RoPaul is a liberal agitator setting the stage for a Obama vs. Romney election.
But because he is a “Constitutionalist”... then all is unicorns and rainbows.
You Paultards make me wanna puke.
This tread is not about Paul and I did not try to make it about Paul, you are the one trying to make it about Paul not me. I offered a definition of conservationism which was obliviously way over your head. Rather then critic my definition you start screaming Paulbot Paulbot, again you are in serious need of an education, I urge you to get one.
The Republican party is not going anywhere. It controls the House, is close to controlling the Senate, and may control the House, the Senate and the Presidency soon. It is entrenched, powerful and stable. It is much more powerful today than it was 40 years ago.
In the late ‘60’s the Republicans only held about 34 Senate seats, had a bedraggled minority in the House, and didn’t control the White House. The media said Republicans were a “permanent minority party”. Wrong.
Starting a third party that can compete with Ds and Rs is a pipedream. It would cost hundreds of millions to get a viable third party off the ground. And all that money would be at risk for years. Hey, go ahead and write some checks. I’ll watch.
It would be much easier to take over the Republican party, IF conservatives had the numbers. We don’t. Which means we can take our lumps in the party, where we have some influence, or out of it, where we will have none.
Now, if you want to try something, drop your membership in the Republican party. I did that in 2007. I still vote for the most conservative viable candidate when I have a vote. Lowering the membership and voting for conservative congress-critters is the only way forward that I see at this time. Parties worry over memberhip numbers and will bend a little if faced with dropping numbers.
As for the “I’ll never vote for so-so crew”, so what? Nobody gives a damn or misses you if you join the huge group of Americans who never vote. Much of America is powerless, join them if you like by not voting, no one cares.
If everyone put their egos on hold for just one election, it would be absolutely EPIC.
If Romney wins the nomination, and I have no doubt he will, voting for him is no different than voting for Obama. The only difference is the rate of decay, and it is negligible.
The vote is already divided to the point that the GOP is irrelevant. If the GOP must nominate a “moderate”, the GOP is nothing more than a center wing of the democrat party.
Romney has no chance of beating Obama, period. Anyone can see that. It's not difficult to understand that he inspires few and the turnout will not be sufficient to surmount the votes Obama will collect. If you believe differently you are only deluding yourself. It's no small wonder why the left is furiously pushing Romney upon us. Win or lose, the lefts agenda continues unabated.
Once the GOP has locked in Romney, it is time to begin the process of starting a conservative party that will give Americans a true choice. The GOP will eventually fade away as they will be viewed as simply another wing of the democrat party, particularly if the newly founded conservative party makes sure to point out that truism.
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