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Gingrich’s Ballot Miss Could Shake Voters’ Confidence [Sabato: "It's A Disaster For Him"]
NY Times ^ | December 24, 2011 | KATHARINE Q. SEELYE

Posted on 12/24/2011 1:01:00 PM PST by Steelfish

Gingrich’s Ballot Miss Could Shake Voters’ Confidence

By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE December 24, 2011

Newt Gingrich declared confidently the other day that he would get his name on the ballot for the Republican presidential primary in Virginia. In fact, he said he already had the requisite 10,000 signatures and an additional 2,000 to 3,000 for safety’s sake and would probably collect even more. Related

But that turned out not to be the case. In the wee hours of Saturday morning, the Virginia Republican Party announced via Twitter that Mr. Gingrich had failed to submit enough signatures by the Thursday deadline, highlighting the organizational challenges to his campaign and raising questions about his prospects in a drawn-out nominating fight.

Many of the Gingrich campaign’s signatures were apparently invalid, which is why most campaigns try to collect almost twice as many as needed. Gov. Rick Perry of Texas and Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota also failed to make the grade.

The Gingrich campaign said it would work with the Republican Party of Virginia to pursue a write-in campaign, but Virginia does not allow write-in names in its primaries.

“Voters deserve the right to vote for any top contender, especially leading candidates,” Michael Krull, Mr. Gingrich’s campaign director, said in a statement.

This misstep is bad news for Mr. Gingrich on several levels. Virginia is his adopted home state. Failing to gather enough signatures in your own backyard creates an image problem, at the very least.

“It’s a disaster for him,” said Larry J. Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia. “This sends yet another signal to Republicans that Gingrich is not able to organize.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cluster; romneyaboverules; romneydirtytrick; rovedirtytrick; vagop; virginia; virginiaprimary
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To: mamelukesabre

Follow the rules, or go on vacation....


81 posted on 12/24/2011 3:46:49 PM PST by Lady on the Lake
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To: BenKenobi
You're not suggesting that Newt and Perry aren't legitimate candidates, are you?

The fact that legitimate candidates have been gamed out of a state primary is not going to sit well with a lot of voters.

It would be easy to promulgate conspiracy theories that people believed about Myth, for instance, in this situation.

Just saying.

The few votes Virginia actually has might cost Myth dearly.

82 posted on 12/24/2011 3:46:54 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: Steelfish
You know I really have a problem with how this is reported. LSM keeps saying they failed to submit the number of signatures needed.

That is false. Both Perry and Newt submitted more than 11,000 signatures, and only 10,000 were required. The GOP verification process disqualified so many signature due to address discrepancies that both candidates lost too many votes.

What we do not know is who were the people verifying the lists. Were they Romney supporters, Ron Paul supporters etc.

We also do not know if any one was watching the checkers. We don't know what kind of discrepancies were tossed out. If software was used, was it so specific that it would not accept lower case letters instead of Capitals, or abbreviations, 9 letter zip instead of 5?

Too many unknowns to make informed decisions. Could even been that some of the volunteers just wanted to sabotage one ore both candidates. Lots of possibilities. Not enough facts known for sure.

83 posted on 12/24/2011 4:11:36 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: onyx
Ah...no...

Still all in for Newt.

84 posted on 12/24/2011 4:22:22 PM PST by TheWriterTX (All in now for Newt Gingrich)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What I’m saying is that legitimate candidates have already been driven off the ballot, and not just in VA.


85 posted on 12/24/2011 4:29:14 PM PST by BenKenobi (You know, you really need to break free of that Catholic mindset.- metmom)
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To: TheWriterTX
yep, this just makes me more determined than ever to stick it to the RNC insiders that want to stack the deck against Newt with this kind of shenanigans.

Go Newt!

86 posted on 12/24/2011 4:34:21 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Frankly, I never saw this race as being close anyway.

Gingrich can afford to lose Virginia, since I have him winning about 40 states against Romney. It just makes me mad as heck that Romney is getting spotted 49 delegates.

And it’s in a state Gingrich was guaranteed to win.


87 posted on 12/24/2011 4:37:53 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: bwc2221
Well he lived in Georgia until 1999 when he left office, and when he moved to Virginia. Why do you ask about 30+ years?
88 posted on 12/24/2011 4:39:35 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Jacquerie
Yup. He may be an arrogant conceited SOB, but by damn he's OUR SOB! Go Newt. Kick ass and take names.
89 posted on 12/24/2011 4:42:38 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: BenKenobi
What I’m saying is that legitimate candidates have already been driven off the ballot, and not just in VA.

And a brokered convention could bring them right back in.

We are already getting Myth.

The worst that could happen at a brokered convention is that we would still get Myth, but there would at least be the possibility of not getting him.

And a brokered convention would not have to limit itself to declared candidates.

90 posted on 12/24/2011 4:44:34 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: upchuck
The NYT and RAT Sabato? Does anyone on FR believe they will give Newt the slightest break?

No, probably not, but we have lots of Newt-haters who will gladly suck spew from the Slimes and heave it up here as if they knew what they were talking about.

91 posted on 12/24/2011 4:46:14 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

“Anyone who thinks this will just pass by are seriously in denial.”

You got that right! bttt

And we have this possible scenerio waiting in the wings:

Brokered Convention – How Sarah Palin Or Jeb Bush Could Still Win The Republican Nomination In 2012

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/brokered-convention-how-sarah-palin-or-jeb-bush-could-still-win-the-republican-nomination-in-2012


92 posted on 12/24/2011 4:46:38 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“And a brokered convention could bring them right back in.”

I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.


93 posted on 12/24/2011 4:53:14 PM PST by BenKenobi (You know, you really need to break free of that Catholic mindset.- metmom)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Did you see his recent Youtube?

At his public meeting in SC yesterday, Newt told the world how, as GOP nominee, he would force Hussein to debate him or face certain defeat.

It it simple, he will do as Lincoln did to Stephen Douglas. Whatever Hussein's campaign schedule is, Newt's will be one day later. Everywhere Hussein appears, Newt will be there the next day to counter him. He will be the yapper dog (my words, not his) at Hussein's ankles, an irritant that cannot be ignored . . .

94 posted on 12/24/2011 5:12:52 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Amen.


95 posted on 12/24/2011 5:24:16 PM PST by TheWriterTX (All in now for Newt Gingrich)
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To: BenKenobi
Really?

Where in Nigeria do I send my money order?

96 posted on 12/24/2011 5:26:16 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: Steelfish

My personal view is that I don’t give a crap about this whole charade.

I’m not voting for Romney.


97 posted on 12/24/2011 5:29:09 PM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: pallis

Wait a minute, who robbed who? I don’t see that anyone robbed anyone. We have two campaigns who failed to turn in the required number of signatures. Two campaigns did it, so should the others. Every problem is always the fault of someone else.


98 posted on 12/24/2011 5:34:45 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: editor-surveyor

So is there evidence of chicanery? What evidence?


99 posted on 12/24/2011 5:41:16 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If the republican party can only save itself through a brokered convention, then I am no longer a Republican.

I want a party that is responsive to the people of the united states, not selecting their candidate behind the darkroom doors of the party elites.

If you sincerely believe that they will nominate Palin in a brokered convention, then yes, I’ve got a Bridge in brooklyn to sell us.

The salvation of the republican party is to turn to the people. A brokered convention means the party is finished. There is no point in working for them because our votes and our values, mean nothing.


100 posted on 12/24/2011 5:41:57 PM PST by BenKenobi (You know, you really need to break free of that Catholic mindset.- metmom)
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