Ron Paul Says His Republican Rivals Want Bigger Government

Newsmax ^ | 2011-11-24 | Hiram Reisner

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Presidential hopeful Ron Paul says his rivals’ militant stances on “the defense of liberty” would make it difficult for him to support any of them for president should he not get the Republican nomination, because their positions would lead to bigger government. But the Texas congressman also told Fox News’ Neal Cavuto Wednesday that despite these concerns, he probably would not run as a third-party candidate.

“I would have trouble with what I heard last night because it is almost opposite of the defense of liberty that I’m talking about,” Paul told Cavuto, referring to Tuesday night’s presidential debate. “I mean, the Republican Party is supposed to be a party, you know, of defining small government — but when it came to the civil liberties, and the Patriot Act, and the invasion of privacy, and the Fourth Amendment — all these things — they wanted more government."

[camp_steveo]

Reagan was certainly not like Clinton, GW Bush, or Obama.

[Rooivalk]

I want cuts in federal government. The military is too expensive.

9/11 was expensive too

[federal__reserve]

Both sides are wrong on the issue of isolationism!

Libertarians are wrong because without strong military power projection worldwide no one can be a super power, and we need a moral super power to keep order in the world. We do not want to go back to the time of ancient conquerors such as Tamar Lane, Chengiz Khan, Alexander of Greece, etc when any marauding force could plunder any lands. We do not want Saddam Hussein to plunder Kuwait, then Saudi Arabia. We do not want Iran to plunder Iraq and other oil producers.

However libertarians are also right in that a super power can not maintain that status by borrowing money to project military power. At the present time, we are broke and in debt to our eyeballs, soon to join Greece and Italy & Spain. So, at present time, we have no choice except to shrink our foreign military involvement. But we can never follow Ron Paul’s libertarian agenda permanently. That would guarantee a second class country.

[mylife]

For all his faults, I think GWB did a pretty decent job.

He just about had the middle east divided with freedom when, Obama was swept to power.

Now all those efforts are being offered as loss.
GWB had the ME divided from Turkey to the Persian gulf with freedom until Obama pissed it away and started playing with his arab spring.

Obama is the enemy.
The blood we have spilled for freedom is sacred.
Obama is a traitor.

Now tell me how Cheney and Rumsfeld suck.

[mylife]

People forget.

[Revolting cat!]

Well, how else are you going to round up 11 million illegals and export them to Meheekoh, as advocated on these very pages?

[mylife]

Anyone that thinks China will be a benevolent super power is deluded.

[fallujah-nuker]

but Jefferson Correctly recognized that the Barbary pirates had to be shut down from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli.

The halls of Montezuma was a reference to the Mexican War. The Barbary Wars were waged in our national interest, freedom of navigation on the high seas. They did not try to bring democracy, they waged a good old fashioned punitive expedition and compelled the enemy to fulfill our will. Under multiculturalism we must value the enemies civilians as we value our own, a return to the America First values of the founders would put Americans first, with perhaps a thousand to one ratio of retaliation for each America killed. Our 9-11 memorial would have been a wasteland where Kandahar once stood. I would exercise some restraint about being drawn into foreign conflicts, but failing that I would wage war without restraint, our ruling class of today does the exact opposite.

[camp_steveo]

The US is not responsible for maintaining order in the world.

That is the neoconservative’s foreign policy.

True conservatism is for limited government, including the use of the military.

We are not the world’s cops.

[Revolting cat!]

John Huntsman promised to donate his to Ron Paul once he (Huntsman) quits the race.

[mylife]

We all exercise restraint in foreign entanglements.

We could have made a difference in Iraq.

I have always had trepidation with Afghanistan.

[mylife]

I bet he gives him a Chinese *furrowed* eyebrow. LoL

[mylife]

Our leaders are wimps, and that reflects the mindset of the constituency.

[hosepipe]

[ Well, how else are you going to round up 11 million illegals and export them to Meheekoh, as advocated on these very pages? ]

Simple.. You pass a few well aimed laws with enforcement..

AND... get out the way as “they” deport themselves..
and where applicable.. offer a little help..

AND.... make training new Seal Teams.. penetration and liquidation of Mexican Drug Cartels..
AND.. any mexican officials found complicit.. with the military mercenaries running the cartels..

Possibly american businessmen and politicians may be involved as well..

[rabscuttle385]

For all his faults, I think GWB did a pretty decent job.

At what, handing the keys to the Federal Treasury to the like of Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan Chase?

[Chi-townChief]

Ron Paul would just be happy with Sharia law instead.

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I would guess that a roundup of a few hundred or perhaps a few thousand with very strict penalty action, yes even family displacement,and wide publicity would get many others thinking that perhaps the USA was not to be a sanctuary for bad conditions in their native countries. This what bothers me most. That these people come into the USA knowingly violating our laws instead of fighting the inadequacies of their own native government and then promote their native country for change here. The USA is derelict in not putting sanctions on Mexico to pay for it’s citizens.

[mangonc2]

Hey, 90% sounds like a pretty good track record to me - that’s WAY above any other politician I know of!

[noprogs]

Yes, he was/is

[noprogs]

We have lost in Iraq and Afghanistan by allowing them to have constitutions lacking freedom of conscience and religion.

Islamic law and Islamic religion are constitutionally mandated in both countries with our blessing.

THAT’S THE PROBLEM!