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Live Thread: Republican Presidential Debate on National Security 8 P.M. EST 11/22/11 on CNN
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/22/2011 3:37:12 PM PST by kristinn

Hosted by the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute, the theme of tonight's Republican presidential debate is foreign policy and national security.

The debate is being held at Constitution Hall in Washington, D.C.

CNN is carrying the debate live at 8 p.m. EST.

Participating candidates are: businessman Herman Cain, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, former Speaker Newt Gingrich, Reps. Ron Paul (TX) and Michele Bachmann (MN), former Gov. Jon Huntsman, and former Sen. Rick Santorum.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012debates; 2012gopdebate; bachmann; cain; cnngopdebate; debate; elections; gingrich; gop; gopdebate; gopsecuritydebate; huntsman; nationalsecurity; nationsecurity; paul; perry; romney; ronpaul; santorum
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Mexico needs the kick in the nuts plan.

And I have always said so.

The Gov is a corrupt POS.


1,781 posted on 11/22/2011 8:54:35 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: caww
The posts I pay attention to are those where they are truly attempting to find the truth about what's being stated about a candidate...and have something informative to say or an opinion which might clarify a candidates statement. Too often just sound bites are used.

Thank you for your post. CW
I agree. I have read probably 80% of the comments posted about the debate, and I think it was another good debate for all the Republican candidates.

I did notice that many more comments were directed towards Newts reply about immigration than there are about any other candidates reply to anything else. Newt made sure he will be the one everyone is talking about with it. So when I read your comment I had to put my 2 cents in by defending your comment and Newt's stance. As I said, even though I have yet to pick a candidate.

I can see that this is going to be the topic of discussion all week. I guess we can thank God that it's a short week with Turkey day coming up. The MSM is going to find itself in a catch 22. They will want to exploit this issue, but then again a Gingrich nominee debating Obama would be their worst nightmare. So it will be interesting to see how they handle this issue.
1,782 posted on 11/22/2011 8:55:07 PM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: mylife
They cant get here.

What does that mean? They can't get where?

1,783 posted on 11/22/2011 8:55:35 PM PST by South40
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To: MHGinTN

Overrun with illegals voting Dem.. going your way... you are lost way before I am buddy.


1,784 posted on 11/22/2011 8:55:39 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Gator113

YEs, Bachman had her spin doctors already out reporting NEWT”S FOR AMNESTY - while they were all still n the hall!

She is dishonest and snide - either on on her own behalf or shilling for Mitt -

She’s getting transparent


1,785 posted on 11/22/2011 8:55:56 PM PST by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: womanvet
CNN loves showing this guy so that people can think all Republicans are as insane as Paul is It occurs to me that CNN loves showing him because they agree with him.

Oh, and they stuff the audience with Paulistas ... every stinking debate is stuffed with Paulistas. What in the hell is up with that?

1,786 posted on 11/22/2011 8:56:01 PM PST by glock rocks (When will the media do an anal exam of Obama? - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: federal__reserve

“Faulty logic! Newt will bring the lefties out of the woodwork to vote against him. The lefties hate him more than other candidates.

The republican turn out on the other hand will be pretty much the same no matter if Newt, Cain or Perry are the nominee.”

I think the “hate” for Newt on the left has died down somewhat given the passage of time. Obama is behind the eight ball and knows he can’t run on his record. He therefore has concluded that he must go extremely negative to win. Note how the leading liberal mouthpieces are already preparing the electorate for this upcoming strategy. So their strategy is to maximize the vote of their base and peel off independents at the margin by scaring them with lies.

Given the coming lies and negativity, it will be very important to have candidate that can eloquently call a spade a spade - just like Newt did when the moderator in one of the recent debates pre-supposed the validity of his implicit assumption that the war on terror was a matter of the “rule of law”. Before answering, Newt made everyone aware that the underlying premise of his question was false. Most of the other candidates would have taken the question at face value and dived into their answer, which in effect gives credence to the lie contained within the question.

I think Newt is probably the candidate best able to cut through the coming lies and negativity.


1,787 posted on 11/22/2011 8:56:32 PM PST by PAR
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To: All

I turn off the debates and CNN and went to CSPAN.
I heard for the first time a Gentleman named David M. Walker,the Founder and CEO of the Comeback America Initiative. Also one time served as United States Comptroller General from 1998 to 2008

For the first time since President Reagan I finally heard what I have been wanting to hear for years.
Term limits for all politicians, true reduction in spending, campaign reforms including ‘unless you are eligible to vote you cannot contribute to a campaign or politician, limit a person from using more than a certain amount of his/her own money (eliminating buying yourself into office), etc.

I just wish more people had heard him. He has some great ideas for this country.

http://www.tcaii.org/

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Failureoft


1,788 posted on 11/22/2011 8:56:32 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Re-flush Congress in 2012, some crap remains!)
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To: MHGinTN

So maybe you will be so kind as to explain what Mylife meant when he said they’ll “go to the back of the line”.

What line? Where is that line? What will become of those who get in that line?


1,789 posted on 11/22/2011 8:58:11 PM PST by Will88
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To: All

I am sorry folks. Cain sounds like a waffler.

If Israel had a plan... and if I had a plan... If I had clarity on the terrain on Iran...


1,790 posted on 11/22/2011 8:59:06 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: PAR

“Romney is the 2nd best debater but is who the democrats want to face”

They want to face off against Romney for a host of reasons. Romney’s a weenie who’s had it easy so far. He can run but he can’t hide. Tonight for a minute he started to get that old familiar deer in the headlights look he did so often before (and will again, when faced with BHO) whenever he’s seriously challenged or skillfully contradicted.

He’d get seriously rattled when facing BHO and the Dem machine. He showed that often in the ‘08 primary debates and I don’t believe he’s magically gotten better.

I’d put Newt and Cain up against an unscripted BHO before Romney, although he does have the looks of Central Casting for a president.


1,791 posted on 11/22/2011 8:59:48 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: montag813
I can tell you that of the illegals who may have been in Alabama when the law changed, most did not 'self-deport', they picked up and moved to another state where these laws do not exist. It is hard on families to do this, but it is far less burden than having to 'self-deport' back to a country on the verge of socital collapse, where drug cartels have more power than legitimate government, lawless, and are definitely not family oriented. What you and others are advocating for with the 'deport them all as soon as they can be rounded up' or 'enforce the laws which will force them to self-deport or be arrested and forced out' is the essence of a humanitarian nightmare which the democrats would love to hang around Republican necks, so millions and millions of legitimate Hispanic votes would be impossible for Republicans to earn.

I know a way to legislatively fix the problems wihtin four years, but everything is predicated on closing the border FIRST.

1,792 posted on 11/22/2011 9:00:17 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: lquist1
willing to take the heat for it

Newt was showing the real ability to lead on immigration.

1,793 posted on 11/22/2011 9:00:34 PM PST by topfile
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To: mylife

We’re not talking about laws, but about various proposals of what should be done with the illegals already here. And you’ve used that often used phrase where the illegals already here would “got to the back of the line”.

But no one ever explains what line, or where it is, and what would be come of those who went to the back of that line.

That’s the only point of yours I addressed and you have not yet clarified what going to the back of the line means.


1,794 posted on 11/22/2011 9:01:45 PM PST by Will88
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To: federal__reserve

N00b, you deport the bread winner in a family and what do you leave behind? Think, troll, think.


1,795 posted on 11/22/2011 9:01:56 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: savage woman
Bachmann: Drones on about her insider information on Policy and yet the Committee she serves on hasn’t done a thing.

What can they do? RATs control the Senate.

Are you telling me that neither the Financial Services Committee nor the Intelligence Committee have passed out any bills to the bodies?

Whether they have or not, she has listened to months and months of deeply intense and dry testimony on various bills. This has given her the opportunity to become an expert on many facets of these two very critical areas of national interest.

1,796 posted on 11/22/2011 9:03:25 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: PAR

I can’t disagree with you on that point. The Newt-hate was very potent during the 90’s. Lot of young lefties do not know that. Listen, I am voting for the republican nominee in general, period. I hate Obama that much. In primaries, every one should be allowed to support their choice without much rancor.


1,797 posted on 11/22/2011 9:04:32 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: All

Newt just said something pretty smart about Iran.

They only have one refinery.

Weak point on Iran.


1,798 posted on 11/22/2011 9:04:47 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: antceecee
I'm not your buddy, hyperbolqueen. Illegals are not voting legally. I would bet they do vote and it gets counted in some jurisdictions, but illegal votes are not the issue. You knwo that yet try to mischaracterize what I wrote. Very alinskyesque that.

Just to make this very clear for you, here's the issue:

You treat Hispanics broadly like cattle and legal Hispanics will crawl over broken tequila bottles to vote for any democrat. Is that clear enough for you?

1,799 posted on 11/22/2011 9:06:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Will88
no one ever explains what line, or where it is, and what would be come of those who went to the back of that line.

That is because it is a convoluted federal bucket of crap

1,800 posted on 11/22/2011 9:07:08 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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