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Man killed by his own concealed weapon
timesdispatch.com ^ | 18 Nov 2011 | Mark Bowes

Posted on 11/20/2011 8:51:58 PM PST by smokingfrog

A Spotsylvania County man with a valid concealed-weapon permit died after a semi-automatic pistol without an external safety discharged as he tried to adjust the weapon, which was tucked into his waistband, investigators have concluded.

The 45-year-old man was sitting in the front seat of his family's minivan in a shopping center parking lot on Sunday when his .40-caliber Glock discharged, authorities said.

"For some reason, maybe for comfort, he reached out and went to adjust it," said Spotsylvania sheriff's Capt. Liz Scott. "The detective thinks that in doing so — in just grabbing it — he inadvertently grabbed the trigger."

"This particular weapon does not have an external safety," Scott added.

The single shot struck the man in the hip and he bled to death in a matter of minutes, the captain said.

The incident is at least the second in Virginia in 15 months in which a concealed-carry permit holder accidentally shot himself in public.

On Sept. 11, 2010, a Bedford County man with a permit accidentally shot himself in the thigh at a Lynchburg restaurant as he apparently reached into his pants pocket to pay a bartender for a beer. The .45-caliber Glock 36 was unholstered. Permit holders are not permitted to drink alcohol in restaurants while carrying a concealed weapon.

The man was later convicted of recklessly handing a firearm, given a 30-day suspended jail sentence and fined $500. He also was ordered to give up his concealed-carry permit for a year.

In the Spotsylvania case, police said the victim was sitting inside his family's van with his four children outside the Giant grocery store in the Harrison Crossing shopping center.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; gunsafety
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1 posted on 11/20/2011 8:52:00 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Those damn Glocks cry out for those professional enough to carry them!

That leaves me out..


2 posted on 11/20/2011 8:56:58 PM PST by One Name
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To: smokingfrog

What’s your point?


3 posted on 11/20/2011 8:57:37 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Help End FREEPATHONS.)
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To: smokingfrog
"...he inadvertently grabbed the trigger."

He pulled on the trigger enough to disengage the trigger safety?

4 posted on 11/20/2011 8:57:39 PM PST by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: One Name

I am still partial to a 1911.


5 posted on 11/20/2011 8:58:25 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: One Name
Those damn Glocks cry out for those professional enough to carry them! That leaves me out..

Yeah, Glocks have that super-sophisticated danger - pulling the trigger fires the weapon.

That's why, out of tens of millions of Glocks, there's so many accidental firings...

oh, wait a minute...

6 posted on 11/20/2011 9:01:11 PM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
What’s your point?

If you're going to carry a gun, do it the right way. Like the story points out, you shouldn't carry a gun without a holster. Especially a Glock.

How's that?

7 posted on 11/20/2011 9:01:11 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

To carry a pistol with a CHAMBERED round in it, I believe—is contrary to all safety training.

What do those Freepers with a CC permit say?


8 posted on 11/20/2011 9:02:30 PM PST by AnalogReigns (because REALITY is never digital...)
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To: smokingfrog

First firearms safety is your brain. Disengage that and bad things happen.


9 posted on 11/20/2011 9:02:30 PM PST by Molon Labbie (Occupiers- The world is watching....and alternatively laughing and vomiting)
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To: smokingfrog
DOH!
10 posted on 11/20/2011 9:07:10 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: MrEdd

Condition One is safer than a Glock, I think.

Plus, most 1911s are carried on the hip rather than in the crotch. I have a Taurus Millenium I carry on occasion where the sun don’t shine (warm weather) but its DA striker with a safety.


11 posted on 11/20/2011 9:07:13 PM PST by One Name
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To: smokingfrog

Holsters are your friends.


12 posted on 11/20/2011 9:07:54 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: AnalogReigns

I never understood the reasoning behind the Glock’s safety - but that’s just me and my limited experience. I bought a Springfield XDM as a first pistol as I liked the safety on the rear of the grip and the way it felt and shot.

Is always in a holster, and always has a round chambered.


13 posted on 11/20/2011 9:07:57 PM PST by 21twelve ("We can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust....and another lost generation.")
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To: AnalogReigns

Perhaps. Right, wrong or indifferent, I have been carrying my Glock 22 with a chambered round for ten years. The difference here is I always carry in the proper holster. Always.


14 posted on 11/20/2011 9:08:14 PM PST by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Molon Labbie

I find an inside the pants soft holster, secured firmly to a leather belt and the waist of your pants is very secure, yet easy to pull, if the need to do so ever comes.

Get to the range often and practice, practice, practice is what we preach to the ladies we teach in our Second Amendment Sister classes.


15 posted on 11/20/2011 9:09:26 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: AnalogReigns

Walther PP style pistols are designed to be carried with a round in the chamber. And the double action on my P64 is so stiff it’s pretty much impossible to fire it by accident.


16 posted on 11/20/2011 9:09:41 PM PST by Mountain Troll (My investment plan - Canned food and shotguns)
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To: AnalogReigns

Disagree, but it’s a matter of training and practice. If you’re carrying a revolver, no big deal. But, if you’re carrying a semi-auto, can you guarantee you’ll have time to rack the slide?


17 posted on 11/20/2011 9:10:34 PM PST by One Name
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To: AnalogReigns

That is incorrect. My CHL trainer carries a chambered, hammer cocked, 1911 45. I don’t carry chambered because I have kids.


18 posted on 11/20/2011 9:11:04 PM PST by TheZMan (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2794639/posts)
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To: smokingfrog
Almost certainly a Glock!

He must have hit his femoral artery.

19 posted on 11/20/2011 9:11:04 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: smokingfrog

Dang! I just hate it when that happens!


20 posted on 11/20/2011 9:11:25 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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