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Reader's viewpoint - For two years, the police have kept my gun(OH)
timesreporter.com ^ | 21 October, 2011 | JOHN VALENTINE

Posted on 10/22/2011 5:03:05 PM PDT by marktwain

I live in Uhrichsville. Within eight months’ time, my property was broken into three times.

After the second time, I had a security system installed.

At 2 a.m. on April 24, 2010, the alarm to the backyard barn went off. I armed myself and went to check it out. The barn door was wide open and a man was inside looking around with a flashlight. I yelled at him to come to me and he came at me with a tire iron in hand. He was less than 10 feet away when I fired a warning shot. He turned and ran; I fired more shots trying to get him to stop. At no time was I trying to hit him.

The police came, took the tire iron that he dropped and also took my gun. It’s been almost two years, and I still cannot get my gun back.

No charges were ever filed. I saw a lawyer and was told it would cost me $400 to file papers with the court for return of the gun.

The gun was registered and I have a permit to carry. I’m 68, never been in trouble. I fired in self-defense. Why are they keeping my gun?

Recently in New Philadelphia, a man fired three shots at a truck in town. The police took his gun and returned it the same day with a warning. What is going on in Uhrichsville?

Can someone please help me get my gun back?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; oh; police
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To: marktwain

Guns are for killing, not scaring. Warning shots are a bad idea.


21 posted on 10/22/2011 5:58:46 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: marktwain

If you go the small claims route you must realize that you will not get your gun back, only its cash value. Small claims has no authority to force the police to comply. They can only award money. So you must decide, is it the gun you want or the money it’s worth?


22 posted on 10/22/2011 5:59:02 PM PDT by redheadtoo
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To: Doctor 2Brains
At least in my state (yours may be different) there are no warning shots allowed. You shoot the bad guy if you feel your life is jeopardy. It wouldn't be in jeopardy if the BG is running away. In fact, the BG running away is what probably happens 97-99% of the time. If you do shoot your attacker, don't expect to get the firearm back (ever), and expect to shell out thousands and thousands of dollars to your lawyers.
23 posted on 10/22/2011 6:09:03 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
You’ve got a primary and a back-up gun on you. You know that even if he’s got it comin’ that killing a guy will give you nightmares forever.

Don't carry a firearm (or 2 )if you don't intend to use them. Don't pull it out if you don't intend to shoot. 9 times out of 10, brandishing, or even worse, firing 'warning' shots, will get you more trouble.

24 posted on 10/22/2011 6:10:33 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

For all the reasons which have already been posted to you. If you don’t have cause to use deadly force then you shouldn’t be pulling the trigger. If you pull the trigger it should be pointed at the threat, not the innocent neighbor.

Perhaps you can explain how a person who won’t stop at the sight of the gun but will suddenly change their mind at a warning shot?


25 posted on 10/22/2011 6:14:53 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 3Fingas

I can think of a hundred situations where a warning shot into the air is a billion times safer than shooting at the perp... People behind the perp, he’s in your house, and your kids’ rooms are behind the perp, etc.


26 posted on 10/22/2011 6:15:18 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Sooth2222

If warning shots are flat out illegal, that is definitely one reason never to fire a warning shot.


27 posted on 10/22/2011 6:16:20 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: marktwain

I yelled at him to come to me and he came at me with a tire iron in hand. He was less than 10 feet away when I fired a warning shot. He turned and ran; I fired more shots trying to get him to stop. At no time was I trying to hit him.

Why did the guy have a gun in the first place.

And, on giving warnings before engaging someone, “What are you trying to do? Turn it into a sporting event?”
Ever come across someone you shouldn’t of fucked with, well that’s me

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28 posted on 10/22/2011 6:17:38 PM PDT by Recon Dad ("The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win and cheat if necessary.")
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To: paul51

The example I cited did NOT involve somebody with no intent to use a firearm, so I don’t know why you bring that up. My example involved somebody who did not want to shoot somebody unless he/she absolutely had to.


29 posted on 10/22/2011 6:17:52 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Sooth2222

Plus you may end up needing that round.


30 posted on 10/22/2011 6:18:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

They did this guy a favor based on the way he used his gun. Eventually he would have hurt someone.


31 posted on 10/22/2011 6:19:58 PM PDT by Recon Dad ("The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win and cheat if necessary.")
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To: driftdiver

I’ve only seen one good reason (the illegal warning shot reason). And, yes, I can imagine somebody seeing a gun and continuing to advance, and then being scared off by a warning shot. The idea that it could never happen is not very persuasive.


32 posted on 10/22/2011 6:20:04 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

“My example involved somebody who did not want to shoot somebody unless he/she absolutely had to.”

What do you call someone with a weapon who intends to do you harm?


33 posted on 10/22/2011 6:20:56 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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34 posted on 10/22/2011 6:21:32 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: driftdiver

I call my example somebody intent on doing harm who might be scared off by a warning shot.


35 posted on 10/22/2011 6:22:31 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

“I’ve only seen one good reason (the illegal warning shot reason).”

Then you shouldn’t be armed, because you are dangerous to those around you and not to criminals.


36 posted on 10/22/2011 6:22:41 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain
I had a firearm confiscated by the police. It took me two years, a lawyer, a considerable amount of research on my part to find out where it was and a 4-day campout with numerous phone calls to the police who had it, upstream agencies and my attorney to recover it.

I spent more money and time than the thing was worth in order to recover it.

That is what you have to do if you want it back.

37 posted on 10/22/2011 6:23:33 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: driftdiver

Touched a BS macho nerve, did I?


38 posted on 10/22/2011 6:23:59 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

And he might not, meanwhile your warning shot is going where? If it hurts someone you are now the criminal.

If you don’t have cause to use lethal force you should not be firing the weapon.

You apparently aren’t willing to learn. I hope you don’t hurt someone around you with your warning shots. Its apparent criminals are safe around you.


39 posted on 10/22/2011 6:24:57 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

It’s apparent you can’t even come close to dealing with what I’ve written. Too bad, so sad.


40 posted on 10/22/2011 6:26:01 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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