Posted on 10/18/2011 4:37:49 PM PDT by kristinn
Broadcast on: CNN
Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT
The Candidates:
Michele Bachmann
Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Herman Cain
Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.
Newt Gingrich
Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.
Ron Paul
Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008
Rick Perry
Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.
Mitt Romney
Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).
Rick Santorum
Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.
“Romney just landed a solid punch to Perrys nose over accusations of having hired illegals working on his property.”
Romney is a lier too. search ‘Mitt Romney hires illegals’, you will get a ton of articles that prove he is lying.
If he fails to drop it, 999 will keep Cain out.
Most people are not fooled as easily as you apparently are.
I have said that I will vote for the Republican nominee, even if it’s Cain or anyone else.
I challenge you to say the same for Perry.
As to the things you accuse Perry of, I’d say you are ill informed and wrong about most of them.
He governs a state that is approaching majority Mexican population. If he can reach out to a Mexican group, I see nothing that ghastly about it.
As far as your line about accepting money, that’s a joke. All political candidates accept money. Cain would love to accept money if anybody would offer him any.
Well, I'll agree with you on that one - no one in the mainstream media is going to say that Romney did terrible - he is their boy.
This was Romney's worst debate performance - he got angry and sounded petty. Perry actually got him flustered!
Newt attacked Romney’s plan as a big-government plan. Romney said they got the idea from Gingrich, which Gingrich denied. Then Romney came back at Gingrich and said, but you supported the individual mandate, which Gingrich admitted. So, I guess, at some point in the past, Gingrich supported some type of government-forced healthcare. I mean, what else is the individual mandate, except the government forcing me to buy health insurance?
Romney has ZERO chance of beating Obama, he has WAAAAAYYYY too much baggage.
Besides this is one election we cannot afford to lose and Mitt is just like Obama just paler.
People who have spent most of their life earning money, paying a high rate of income tax and saving money for retirement, will now get taxed 9% on their life savings as they spend it in their retirement.
It's not to hard to figure out that that is a problem.
I think another advantage of the sales tax approach is something I think I’ve heard Rush say. Payroll taxes are “passive”. Wage earners don’t have to actually write a check or dig the money out of their wallet; it’s just withheld paycheck after paycheck. Oh, yes, you know its coming out, but you never get the money in your possession, in your hands and then have to surrender it. With a sales tax, you are constantly aware of the taxes you are paying and the great majority of people will be very vigilant about how they spend their money and much more sensitive to the fact that the government is taking the money from us time and time again: this will compel a great many more people to be watchdogs over how the money is spent. I suppose its theoretical, but it makes sense.
I’m not saying I’m sold on 999, just pointing out one of the arguments for it. I do LOVE Cain for his genuine, American, patriotic, plain-spoken, optimistic persona. I think he’d be a good president, but I’m not sure he’d be able to go the distance as candidate. He’s a little mistake prone on the fly and has to walk back things, which can accumulate and become killer problems when the Chicago machine goes after him.
Yes, just got pinged on it! Thanks.
Yes, I wonder what mandate Newt backed? I’m going to research that. That’s a new one on me. Just the concept of a mandate? I know the Heritage Foundation backed the concept of a mandate in some way. Will need to figure out what’s the story here.
Wouldn’t the sales tax burden be offset by a reduced capital gain burden?
Romney responded by dredging up Perry’s work as a young Texas politician in support of Al Gore’s 1988 presidential campaign.
“With regard to track record and the past, governor, you were the chairman of Al Gore’s campaign. And there was a fellow Texan named George Bush running,” Romney said. “So if we’re looking at the past, I think we know where you were.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44950535/ns/politics-decision_2012/?ocid=ansmsnbc11
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I didfnt get to watchb the debate
I do hope Perry came back with something like
“Willie Mitty, since you wont to go back 20 years, lets go back to 1994 when you said “I dont want to go back to the time of Bush and Reagan. I was an Independant during the time of Bush and Reagan”
That “time” would include 1988 when Willie Mitty didnt support bush either...just like Perry...
One wonders just whom the turn coat Willie Mitty did support in 1988..
Oh yes how quickly Willie Mitty wants us to forget...
These debates are quite the Straw Man Event for Willie Mitty
“Look over there..”
I don’t know how tonight’s debate will play for or against Rick Perry, but he proved he has a pulse. Smooth, no. He made no errors whatsoever on actual policy issues. He has the money to stay in for awhile and the rest of the field does not. It is about to thin out, or go into serious debt. Maybe Romney wants to pay their bills so they can stay in and by delaying their demise he advantages himself against the inevitable, the time soon coming when the big guns left will turn directly at him with no brush fire diversions. Perry will likely be there should Cain stumble and the rest will be predictable. Romney or Perry.
Bingo. The fact is, America is entirely capable of building some sort of physical barrier that is capable of stopping the vast majority of illegal crossings. Naturally, a physical barrier alone isn't sufficient. We'll have to man that barrier, as well, and use every other technological tool at our disposal to really secure the border.
The point is, all of these arguments against implementing an 'all of the above' approach (including a physical barrier) are weak, submissive justifications for doing nothing at all to stop the invasion at its source.
The only thing lacking in the illegal immigration issue, is the political will and courage in Washington, to actually DO something about it.
Perry sure did poorly again tonight. He shouldn’t even be considered a serious candidate after tonight.
Have you ever ran a competitive business?
The extra cash goes to higher wages to draw better workers, into R&D to make better products, expansion of the company, which means hiring more people, higher wages to remain competitive.
Remember, the way things used to be before oppressive corporate tax rates?
Remember “gas wars”?
That’s just one example of the company lowering the cost of the product and passing the savings on to the consumer, making up for it with sales volume.
Remember the crappy cars the US used to make in the 70’s?
Remember what happened after Reagan cut the corporate tax rate?
The US started building better quality cars at a lower cost.
The current Corvette ZR-1 is a world class sports car that will beat a Ferrari around the track at Nurburgring, but it’s 1/5th the cost.
Yeah, the leather interior isn’t as nice as the Ferrari’s, but is that worth spending an extra 400k on?
That and the “prestige” of having a dancing pony emblem on your hood?
Facts are, once the corporate rate was slashed, the US became a major player again in the automotive industry, a decade after building crap like the Pinto and the Gremlin and other “fine” examples of automotive engineering.
I love the way Perry and the others are dinging Santoumm.
“Wrong”
Those links were to threads all the way back in 2003! Really??? Talk about carrying a grudge, LOL!
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AND he ‘remembers’ the hateful posts that were removed, too! LOL.
It is beautiful country. Cold, but beautiful.
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