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Jeffress Says Satan Rules Catholicism
Catholic League ^ | 10/12/2011 | n/a

Posted on 10/12/2011 12:03:22 PM PDT by Pyro7480

Last Friday, Rev. Robert Jeffress, the Dallas pastor who introduced Gov. Rick Perry at the Values Voter Summit, spoke derisively about the Mormon faith of Mitt Romney, making the case that “Mormonism is a cult.” Two days later, he chided Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism as “false religions.”

Last year, Rev. Jeffress said the Roman Catholic Church was the outgrowth of a “corruption” called the “Babylonian mystery.” He continued, “Much of what you see in the Catholic Church today doesn’t come from God’s word. It comes from that cult-like pagan religion. Isn’t that the genius of Satan?”

Catholic League president Bill Donohue offered these remarks today:

Where did they find this guy? When theological differences are demonized by the faithful of any religion—never mind by a clergyman—it makes a mockery of their own religion. Rev. Jeffress is a poster boy for hatred, not Christianity.


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To: Pyro7480

I heard an interview with CBN and Perry said the same thing. The interview was during the Value Voters Conference. So the spin against Perry is shallow, lame, and actually stupid. When you have to dig up and put lies out...says to me they can’t find anything worthy against Perry.


61 posted on 10/12/2011 12:33:17 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Somebody forgot about "thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour".

If he's anything like the anti-Catholic FReepers we encounter every day (and what I used to be like), he's so certain of his position that he feels he has the right to impose it on the rest of us. Obviously, he doesn't think he's bearing false witness (but we know otherwise).

My old pastor used to express pride in how he'd refuse to attend prayer events that included Catholics.

62 posted on 10/12/2011 12:34:32 PM PDT by djrakowski
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To: shield

What, illegal immigration isn’t a worthy issue?


63 posted on 10/12/2011 12:35:09 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: ari-freedom
Why can’t we all just get along and become Unitarians?

All we're asking is for loud-mouthed bigots to keep their own religious dogmas out of political debates.

I don't happen to be Catholic either, but I have a great deal of respect for Pope John Paul II and what he did to help bring down the Iron Curtain along with Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. That is not the work of a Satanic cult, that is the work of a good and decent Christian leader doing what is right.

Jeffress will never amount to a pimple on the Pope's rear end.

64 posted on 10/12/2011 12:35:27 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: shield

Yeah, this means precious little to me, actually. His stance on tuition for children of illegals, however...


65 posted on 10/12/2011 12:35:48 PM PDT by djrakowski
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To: Pyro7480

Thanks. I just listened to it. It’s pretty inaucuous stuff until he gets to 1:15. That short statement is one I strongly agree with. I’d have to verify the rest.

Unfortunately, this is a small sound bite. I’d like to either hear one of his sermons where he gets to the particulars or read one of his articles that does the same.


66 posted on 10/12/2011 12:36:09 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
He is not alone in what he says

Jeremiah Wright is not alone in what he says, either. Both of them, along with their followers, pervert and distort the Word of God.

May God grant them the grace of repentance and conversion. Right now, they are mired in falsehood.

67 posted on 10/12/2011 12:36:37 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: djrakowski

“If he’s anything like the anti-Catholic FReepers we encounter every day (and what I used to be like), he’s so certain of his position that he feels he has the right to impose it on the rest of us.”

Really? Is Jeffress or any other Protestant on here trying to use the government to make Roman Catholicism illegal or to take away the civil rights of Roman Catholic citizens?


68 posted on 10/12/2011 12:38:13 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: cuban leaf

Maybe Pastor Jeffress loves Jesus above all, and his rejection of various faith traditionss is a clumsy expression of the primacy he places on Jesus.

My passion for exalting the Savior Jesus above all — over Rome (and over St. Teresa, Joseph, and Fatima; check out the taglines above) — leads some to consider me kinda wacko.

(”Take Joseph as my master”? No, I’ll take Jesus as my master. “Live the message of Fatima”? No, I’ll live the message of Jesus.)

I’m not necessarily defending Jeffress. I’m just noticing some people are demonized because they promote faith in Jesus at the expense of others. And certainly Perry shouldn’t be rejected because of his passing affiliation with Jeffress.


69 posted on 10/12/2011 12:38:15 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Pyro7480
Yes, but Perry won’t disavow him either.

I'll be happy if and when the "I demand you disavow what someone else said" stuff disappears from politics. Did anyone ask Perry if he thought Satan controlled the Catholic church?
70 posted on 10/12/2011 12:38:25 PM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
What you say about protestants may be true, but when you consider that the Catholic church is a break away from the Christian Church, then the guy starts to sound less loony, huh?


71 posted on 10/12/2011 12:38:25 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: GraceG
Perry crashing and burning.

Is it just me, or is Perry half-asleep during these debates? I'm wondering if the guy might be suffering from narcolepsy. He's frequently incoherent and seems to be slightly drowsy.
72 posted on 10/12/2011 12:39:12 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: ReformationFan

Please read carefully: he believes he has the right to get in our faces and tell us how many ways our religious beliefs lead us to hell. He’s not concerned with whether we want to hear it, or have asked his opinion. He’s gonna give it to us anyways. I used to be that kind of witness. No wonder I wasn’t successful at drawing people to Christ. “You’re wrong and your pagan religion is leading you straight to hell” is hardly a winsome approach, no?


73 posted on 10/12/2011 12:41:27 PM PDT by djrakowski
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To: Theo; surroundedbyblue
My passion for exalting the Savior Jesus above all — over Rome (and over St. Teresa, Joseph, and Fatima; check out the taglines above) — leads some to consider me kinda wacko.

(”Take Joseph as my master”? No, I’ll take Jesus as my master. “Live the message of Fatima”? No, I’ll live the message of Jesus.)

It's common courtesy to ping the person when you talk about them. Maybe the courage is lacking.

74 posted on 10/12/2011 12:42:16 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Palladin

Considering that Michelle Bachmann got a pass for her long-time membership in a church which teaches that the pope is the anti-Christ, there seems to be a double standard here—this isn’t the pastor of the church Perry attends.


75 posted on 10/12/2011 12:44:12 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Deo volente
seems to be slightly drowsy.

He used this excuse after a poor performance in one of the earlier debates. What's his excuse this time?

76 posted on 10/12/2011 12:45:29 PM PDT by djrakowski
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To: Theo

Jeffress is irrelevant.

Why is everyone making a big deal of this man, thereby trying to taint the reputation of a Republican presidential candidate?

(FWIW, seeing the Roman Catholic Church as a corruption of biblical/historical Christianity is not a “fringe” belief.)
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you say he’s irelevant,
and then, your “FWIW” immediately shows it is VERY relevant!

...you are correct, it is not a “fringe” belief. or limited to Southern Baptists. Bachmann’s church has very similar beliefs about Catholics.

so, it is VERY possible, that Perry has the SAME beliefs as Jeffress.
THAT is what the $64,000 question is.
and, will Perry have the courage to admit it.

(especially after all his praising Islam, and quoting the Quran, and signing halal meat bills to cut the throat of animals in Allah’s name. ...NOT the actions of a true evangelical in my book.)

If Perry is a man of integrity, and admits his believes, and especially, if he renouces Islam as the true enemy of Christianity it is... then, i will vote for him !!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2791079/posts

...i will vote for ANY candidate, who will stand up for that 12 year old girl, and others like her, and the Christians who are being burned out of their homes and churches all over the Muslim world.
but the ONLY candidate to criticise Islam, is Cain.
NOT “evangelical” Perry.


77 posted on 10/12/2011 12:46:05 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Considering that Michelle Bachmann got a pass for her long-time membership in a church which teaches that the pope is the anti-Christ, there seems to be a double standard here—this isn’t the pastor of the church Perry attends.

You have made the first plausible defense of Perry so far on this thread, and you are to be commended for being reasonable. Still, I think he'll have to speak up, just as Bachmann did (if memory serves).

78 posted on 10/12/2011 12:46:25 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: ArrogantBustard

—Jeremiah Wright is not alone in what he says, either.—

I don’t see the correlation. Billy Graham was not alone in what he said. Josef Stalin was not alone in what he said.

—Both of them, along with their followers, pervert and distort the Word of God.—
I understand how Wright does. How does Jeffries? I’ve only been exposed to a few brief comments. To me, they don’t qualify as perverting or distorting the Word of God.


79 posted on 10/12/2011 12:46:29 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Pyro7480

I didn’t realize Jeffress was an illegal immigrant.


80 posted on 10/12/2011 12:46:36 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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