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Herman Cain: pizza boss, radio host, ballistics expert, minister. President?
guardian.co.uk ^ | 8 October 2011 | Staff

Posted on 10/09/2011 5:21:04 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

He is the latest Tea Party favourite to burst through in the increasingly heated race for the Republican presidential nomination and see their poll numbers rocket them to frontrunner status.

However, unlike previous rightwing darlings such as Texas governor Rick Perry and Minnesota congresswoman Michele Bachmann, wealthy businessman Herman Cain, 65, can claim to be cut from a very different sort of cloth from the average Republican candidate.

First, he is not actually a politician. Cain, whose CV includes being a radio show host, a navy ballistics expert, a Baptist minister and a Federal Reserve official, has never held elected office in his life. His most famous job was as chief executive of the fast-food firm Godfather's Pizza.

Yet none of that seemed to matter to the cheering crowds at the Values Voter Summit in a Washington DC hotel late last week. There was much to celebrate. A Zogby opinion poll had just boosted Cain into first place in the race, with 38% of the vote, compared with 18% for former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Perry trailed in third place with 12%. The study even showed Cain beating President Barack Obama in a match-up by 46% to 44%.

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To: jla

“race-baiter”

For a moment there, I thought you were referring to Rico “don’t like their last name” Perry. I mean, I know we’re “heartless” and all...


41 posted on 10/09/2011 6:25:55 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: PghBaldy

That’s one of Cain’s biggest advantages. People are fed up with politicians.


42 posted on 10/09/2011 6:25:59 AM PDT by meatloaf (It's time to push back against out of control government.)
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To: VanDeKoik; All
“Herman Cain: pizza boss, radio host, ballistics expert, minister. President?”
Well heck, George Washington was a farmer, surveyor, general, and brew master.


***BUMP***

THAT observation bears repeating until it sinks in to those who "just don't get it".

Well said FRiend!
43 posted on 10/09/2011 6:27:30 AM PDT by mkjessup (Herman Cain is a God fearin', Jesus-lovin', Constitution-revering PATRIOT. What's not to like?)
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To: JDW11235
"He got more than double the votes of Romney, and more than triple that of Perry in the Zogby poll mentioned in the article. That’s pretty substantial."

Are you seriously citing a Zogby poll as any kind of authority? Seriously?

"Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Following an Election Day prediction that Democratic candidate John Kerry would win more than 300 electoral votes and the presidency, one of America's most well known polling firms continued the job Wednesday of explaining its flawed projection.

Shawnta Watson Walcott, communications director for Zogby International, joined a group of liberal Democrats at a faux congressional hearing focused on whether fraud influenced the Nov. 2 (2004) outcome.

"... it has become increasingly clear that this election has produced unprecedented levels of suspicion regarding its outcome, and we join this panel discussion in an attempt to find a resolution to these issues," said Walcott, who represented the firm's president and long time political pollster John Zogby at the forum sponsored by Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee.

On Election Day, Zogby predicted that Kerry would win 311 electoral votes. For much of that afternoon, he also rated the state of Virginia as too close to call. Not only did President Bush end up winning Virginia by 9 percentage points over Kerry, he won 286 electoral votes, over 3.3 million popular vote more than Kerry and, of course, re-election.

But with a Rayburn House Office Building meeting room as the backdrop, Judiciary Committee Democrats, liberal special interest groups and individuals like Rainbow PUSH Coalition founder Jesse Jackson Wednesday alleged that the election had been marred by fraud and malfunctioning voting machines.

Walcott told the group assembled that Zogby International had questions of its own pertaining to the election. -- Zogby Polling Seeks Damage Control After Election Day Flub


44 posted on 10/09/2011 6:32:08 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: ozarkgirl
What do you want to know? His positions are stated at his website

Anybody can say anything until they are confronted with the actual decision that counts. Just like a lot of people think it would be easy to run a business until they actually have to do it. He would be surrounded with "experts" to help him make those decisions just like "The Won" and they would be leading him around by the nose in no time at all.....just as they are doing with Obama.

45 posted on 10/09/2011 6:32:18 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Please don't be a Freeploader, help to keep the lights on.)
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To: ozarkgirl
Cain has the least political experience of anyone

That's a good thing!


Actually, it isn't. It takes political 'savvy' to get anything done in Washington. A president has 535 Hill politicians, thousands of lobbyists, and hundreds of governmental bureaucracies to deal with.

The position is the most powerful on the planet. Someone whose expertise is delivering pizzas probably would find the position overwhelming in short order.


46 posted on 10/09/2011 6:32:56 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: IbJensen
Barack B H Soretoes-Obama: community disorganizer, non-functioning senator, PRESIDENT?

You beat me to it.

That anyone could question Cain's readiness with the implicit support of an obvious doofus already occupying the White House is laughable.

ML/NJ

47 posted on 10/09/2011 6:34:20 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: JDW11235
"Check the sidebar for further polls."

And of those polls, the only recent one done with any kind of statistical validity was the CBSNews poll, which showed Cain tied with Mittens 17%-17%.

48 posted on 10/09/2011 6:34:48 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: JDW11235
As was previously on this site explained, the "heartless" remark was not directed to the general public per se. Watching the debate would clarify this, by why let the truth get in the way of you smearing a genuine American such as Rick Perry.

By the way, do you Cain supporters share your man's zeal and admiration for Mitt Romney?

49 posted on 10/09/2011 6:34:48 AM PDT by jla (Who says Perry's a conservative? - Rush, Inhofe, Levin & Sowell do.)
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To: meatloaf

I’d like to see a list of major candidates (Democrat or Republican) who never held an elected office, and then made it to the general election and lost to someone who had held an elected office (not lost to someone else who held never held one either). We know that 8 or 9 (I believe it was 9) who never held elected office WON the Presidency, so I’m interested in how many made it to the big vote but didn’t make it, if any even exist. I’m betting it’s none. Which would mean that whether or not someone has held elected office has never been a factor in a General election. But I hope to see the numbers either way.


50 posted on 10/09/2011 6:36:02 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: StAnDeliver

So he was tied in the lead? BTW can you explain to mean what you mean by “statistical validity.” Since there is no agreed upon definition of that term, I’d like to know what you mean when you say that.


51 posted on 10/09/2011 6:38:14 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: jla; Jim Robinson

Our Founder Jim Robinson has no problem with Herman Cain, so your facetious question about Mitt-Witt is irrelevant.


52 posted on 10/09/2011 6:41:28 AM PDT by mkjessup (Herman Cain is a God fearin', Jesus-lovin', Constitution-revering PATRIOT. What's not to like?)
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To: McGavin999

I don’t agree, I was snookered by Obama. Was at the Y, running on a treadmill listening to obama say how we needed to change government and I was impressed!! Went home and looked up his website, took just a few seconds to see just how he wanted to change government.

Herman Cain is a strong leader, not a follower like Obama.


53 posted on 10/09/2011 6:42:34 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: mkjessup; VanDeKoik
One small item you fail to note: Washington led the colonials to victory over the British which enabled this nation to emerge. Jefferson, Madison, et al, were unanimous in the belief that Washington had to be our first POTUS if this new nation were to survive.
Though I realize that feat pales in comparison to what Cain has achieved.
54 posted on 10/09/2011 6:42:47 AM PDT by jla (Who says Perry's a conservative? - Rush, Inhofe, Levin & Sowell do.)
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To: ozarkgirl
"your reference to Reagan. First you have to get people's attention, then you have to have the substance behind it to accomplish your goals. Herman Cain has both, he's proven it his entire life, VP of Pillsbury at 34?

Reagan's trickle down philosophy wasn't immediately effective, apparently he was encouraged several times to give it up but he stuck by it - he was tenacious and that's an excellent quality for a President."

All valid, and all lacking those powerful, instructive two terms Reagan served as Governor of California.

55 posted on 10/09/2011 6:42:47 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: jla

Cain’s not “my man.” Some of us are involved in what’s called a “Primary” where candidates are sorted out. We don’t all jump on a bandwagon candidacy and ride it off a cliff. And I’ve watched every debate, some more than once. I don’t care how you try and twist Rico Perry’s words, he said what he said (I don’t have an excuse for my liberal position, so I’m going to blanket ad hominem anyone who disapproves of it).

“By the way, do you Cain supporters share your man’s zeal and admiration for Mitt Romney?”

Typical liberal non-argument (besides the fallacy of a false dilemma/dichotomy), “If I can’t give a viable argument, I’ll just change the subject to make you talk about that, instead.”

BTW the only person who may not be a “genuine American” is Obama, since he’s probably not an NBC. I realize that fluff may be all you have, unless you’ve single handedly redefined the word “genuine.”


56 posted on 10/09/2011 6:43:22 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I will be voting for Herman Cain in the primary. I will be sending money. I will volunteer for the campaign.


57 posted on 10/09/2011 6:44:32 AM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: TomGuy

Herman Cain is a strong leader, not a follower like Obama.

And he didn’t “deliver pizzas”, you have the net, do a little homework and you’ll see he was VP of Pillsbury at 34. He is an effective person, a strong leader. That’s what we need, shoot, Reagan took heat for being an actor, how would you feel if any actors in Hollywood were running for Pres? lol


58 posted on 10/09/2011 6:46:27 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl

“Folks need to do their homework before knocking him.”

Well how in the world does that help Rick Perry?/s


59 posted on 10/09/2011 6:47:24 AM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: jla
One small item you fail to note: Washington led the colonials to victory over the British which enabled this nation to emerge. Jefferson, Madison, et al, were unanimous in the belief that Washington had to be our first POTUS if this new nation were to survive.

You miss the point (as usual). The point IS that Herman Cain is a CITIZEN, not a career politician, and like George Washington, he had no prior political experience and like Washington, Cain is a self-made man with a proven record of NON-political success.

Though I realize that feat pales in comparison to what Cain has achieved.

Cain has achieved far more than you give him credit for.
60 posted on 10/09/2011 6:48:00 AM PDT by mkjessup (Herman Cain is a God fearin', Jesus-lovin', Constitution-revering PATRIOT. What's not to like?)
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