Posted on 10/05/2011 6:56:06 PM PDT by Clairity
While Cain is likely to hit a ceiling in the near future, he's effectively dug into Perry's base and helped expose the frontrunner's weakness. Fracturing the anti-Romney vote has made it all the easier for Romney to win.
With New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie out of the race, no one is competing with Romney for moderate Republicans.
Cain himself might not be too upset with that outcome. While he's been a frequent critic of Romney on the trail, he endorsed the tenuous front-runner in 2008.
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Of course, Cain could beat Obama if he could win the GOP nomination, but he can't. The two parties have nominated 50 candidates since 1912. All but four were Presidents, Vice Presidents, Governors or Senators. One of those was General of the Armies Dwight D. Eisenhower (a special case). Two others (J.W. Davis in ‘24 and Wendell Wilke in ‘40) were desperate, last resort selections neither of whom won a general election. The fourth was a long-serving Cabinet Secretary and celebrated do-gooder named Herbert Hoover. He turned out to be he most inept politician ever to occupy the Oval Office (before 2009).
Political neophytes occasionally run for President. They never win. It just doesn't work that way, and for good reason. The presidency is a job for a skilled professional politician, voters understand that and obviously unqualified applicants get rejected early in the process.
That's reality and it isn't going to change miraculously for the convenience of Herman Cain and a few delusional Freepers.
You can take it from there but you have to remember that Ike walked away from his war to take a part time job at a now nearly defunct University overrun with Communist apparatchiks and fellow-travelers. Herman ended up owning the battlefield! So it's not a perfect match of course.
A lot of conservatives don't have a candidate right now. Many are disoriented by Sarah Palin’s decision. In the confusion, some will mistake Herman Cain for a real presidential candidate. They need to hear the truth that he isn't.
Cain's dedicated supporters, like Duncan Hunter's last time around, Michelle Bachmann’s three weeks ago and Sarah Palin’s up until last night, are lost in a foolish fantasy. If that's not childish, nothing is and there's no downside to saying so.
So, my question is, where should conservatives turn?
Every other candidate seems to me to have at least as many flaws as Perry, and I'm not yet convinced Cain is running for anything other than VP.
I am definitely open to suggestions.
He said we are all heartless batardes.
I want you to know I am not a batarde.
Perry:
“I think Americans just don’t know sometimes which Mitt Romney they’re dealing with. Is it the Mitt Romney that was on the side of — against the Second Amendment before he was for the Second Amendment? Was it — was before — he was before the social programs from the standpoint of — he was for standing up for Roe versus Wade before he was against first — Roe versus Wade? Him — he was for Race to the Top. He’s for Obamacare and now he’s against it. I mean, we’ll wait until tomorrow and — and — and see which Mitt Romney we’re really talking to tonight.”
No, I mean childish like clinging to fruitless fantasies as an escape from a difficult task like rescuing the country from the progressive plague.
You could make that argument, but by that argument then Cain should have dropped out in June to help ... Bachmann?
“neck and neck” is not about polls, but about delegates.
No, at this stage of the race, with zero delegates won, nobody really leads, and each candidate still has the opportunity to prove themselves. Dont count Perry OR Cain out just yet.
“While he’s been a frequent critic of Romney on the trail, he endorsed the tenuous front-runner in 2008.”
“Not many are more conservative than Jim DeMint, but he (unwisely) backed Romney.”
Given the field in 2008, it wasnt that bad of a call. He would have been a much better candidate than McCain.
A valid point.
But, that is all only temporary. Cain is a rank amateur and lacks the things that both Romney and Perry have been doing for decades; Campaign, advertise and organize! No politician or campaign can survive without those three critical elements. And Cain simply does not have the capacity or the experience to create those things this late in the game.
Lots of Republicans supported Romney in 2008. It’s not like we had great choices.
Freepers who support Cain should just take that as a challenge.
He’s not going to “fracture the conservative vote” because HE IS the conservative candidate. If anything you have it backwards: Rick Perry will to a degree (though he’s more ‘establishment (G.W.B)’. Beside as a conservative (I support Herman Cain for Potus), but I’d rather Romney at this point than slick George W. Perry. Just saying..
JS
“Given the field in 2008, it wasnt that bad of a call. He would have been a much better candidate than McCain.”
Good point.
“at this stage of the race, with zero delegates won, nobody really leads, and each candidate still has the opportunity to prove themselves.”
When you think that around 4 years ago, at this time, Rudy and Thompson were the two front runners, and Hillary was 2-1 ahead of Obama, the majority of them should probably not be counted out.
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