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Poll: Cain Overtakes Romney With GOP Primary Voters
Newsmax ^ | 10/4/11 | David Patten

Posted on 10/05/2011 12:29:18 PM PDT by justsaynomore

A Newsmax/InsiderAdvantage poll shows businessman and radio talk-host Herman Cain now leading former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney among likely GOP primary voters in the fight for the 2012 Republican nomination. The exclusive poll, taken in the past 24 hours, shows Cain vaulting Romney 26 percent to 24 percent. The poll has a margin of error of 4.4 percent. Several other polls show similar results, establishing Cain as the new grass-roots frontrunner deadlocked with Romney, the establishment Republican choice. A new CBS poll showed Cain and Romney deadlocked, with each candidate garnering 17 percent of the vote. And a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday shows Romney leading Cain 22 percent to 17 percent — a statistical tie due to the poll’s margin of error.

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To: justsaynomore
Love the Cainimator.

Two interesting things to watch...

1- How will the Romney attack machine handle Cain.

2- Will a Cain defeat of O’Bombo be considered “BLACK ON BLACK” crime!

121 posted on 10/05/2011 8:45:31 PM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: redinIllinois

I really don’t. I do however expect Cain’s name recognition to go higher :-)


122 posted on 10/05/2011 8:47:27 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

Now that Sarah has bailed out, watch for Cain’s numbers to jump dramatically. Sarah’s base will gladly support Cain.


123 posted on 10/05/2011 8:52:54 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Victor

Several have posted on Cain’s Facebook page and are being welcomed with open arms! :-)


124 posted on 10/05/2011 8:56:48 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: fireman15

Any true conservative who can sit through The View without strangling at least one of them is a saint.


Any conservative who can get through an interview on the View without committing a mis-step, tremendous gaffe or back tracking on their unabashed SOCIAL conservatism is the one we are looking for.

Cain went on the View, was attacked by Baba wawa, Behar and Whoopi and successfully defended himself in a completely engaging, serious and friendly manner. I think Star Jones might even like him.

No one on the republican debate stage - not Gingrich, not Perry, not Romney - could have done that. Each and every one of them would have gotten argumentative or defensive.

Cain handled them with aplomb. He can win and he’ll be a GREAT President.


125 posted on 10/05/2011 9:01:37 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Cain 2012!)
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To: GunPkrBkr

A sales tax is a “regressive” tax and not a “progressive” tax. The poor who spend their entire paycheck as soon as they get it, if not before, are taxed on all of their income presently. while those who are better off will save and invest much of their income, thus shielding it from a sales tax and encouraging saving and investing. While at first glance this might seem to hurt the poor, the great progress that would be brought about by this “regressive” tax would benefit the poor far more than the “progressives” and their Marxism ever have.


126 posted on 10/05/2011 9:25:06 PM PDT by ME-262 (We need Term Limits for the federal house and senate. We need new Bums up there.)
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To: struggle

So it is my fault if the tax money isn’t there to pay my job at the library or a company outsources it’s operations to Asia ? Why would an elected Republican work to “create jobs” for those they deem to be too lazy to want to work?

How does this make sense?


127 posted on 10/05/2011 10:00:45 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: WOSG
The rest of what Cain said was spot on.

I agree with Cain's idea, but I think he should have said it a little more tactfully.

128 posted on 10/05/2011 10:01:39 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: erlayman; struggle
So it is my fault if the tax money isn’t there to pay my job at the library or a company outsources it’s operations to Asia?

I think I understand Cain's thinking, but he needs a little more tact. Sharron Angle lost in NV after she said unemployed workers are "spoiled."

Reagan could communicate conservative ideas without antagonizing voters. Cain is brilliant, but I think he needs to think before speaking sometimes.

129 posted on 10/05/2011 10:11:43 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

He can try a velvet glove approach but most Americans aren’t going to give the benefit of the doubt to a way of thinking that appears to be so incredibly out of touch. The wealthy part makes my blood boil and I haven’t even been laid off yet.


130 posted on 10/05/2011 10:33:02 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: fs10198

The Newmax poll said that 35% of GOP primary voters say they’ll consider a 3rd part if Myth gets the nod.

Hank


131 posted on 10/05/2011 10:39:16 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Ping me to join my anti-Christadelphian list - The best arcane religious doctrinal squabbling on FR!)
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To: erlayman
a way of thinking that appears to be so incredibly out of touch.

My point. "Appears to be." Cain needs to work on not appearing to be out of touch. Otherwise the voters will punish him.

132 posted on 10/05/2011 10:40:01 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: erlayman

I agree that was a pretty bad statement to make, politically speaking. Another example of his relative naivete when it comes to messaging. I love the guy, but he needs a crash course in how not to say things like this.

Hank


133 posted on 10/05/2011 10:43:29 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Ping me to join my anti-Christadelphian list - The best arcane religious doctrinal squabbling on FR!)
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To: erlayman
The government has no business trying to create large numbers of jobs! For each job funded through tax dollars to appear it becomes necessary for those paying the taxes to let a few employees off of their balance sheet. The best that a government can do is to create a nation where hard work and smart work are rewarded directly by the market. If a government can create such an order and then keep from meddling in the affairs of honest businesses then the nation's job creators will soon be vying for the last cost productive workers. However we currently have lawyers and governmental agencies harming business for fun and profit, we have a crooked system to provide justice which caters to the highest bidder, our tax system is punishing of profit the key motivation for a capitalist economy, and counter intuitive political correctness is forced on all to the detriment of all. Oh for a government that respected the bounds of only doing what is absolutely necessary!
134 posted on 10/05/2011 11:01:45 PM PDT by ME-262 (We need Term Limits for the federal house and senate. We need new Bums up there.)
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To: af_vet_rr
A lot of us who won't vote for Romney do so out of strong religious conviction, and oppose him as much as we oppose Obama. Many would no more vote for Romney than they would a muslim or scientologist.

So, we have two grounds for objection: (1) religious, and (2) policies. The first one would be equally the same between 0bama and Romney. For policies, I'd say one would have been very ignorant if he/she doesn't see any difference between the two, even though they both might be in the unacceptable range. Romney & his Mormonism may have many objectable qualities, but if one cannot see any difference between him and 0bama, I'd say again: he/she deserves to be under 0bama forever.

Again, I'm not suggesting anybody to vote for Romney. I'm arguing against supporting a 3rd party candidate.

135 posted on 10/06/2011 12:53:43 AM PDT by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car; he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: tsowellfan
Hopefully Palin will endorse Cain.

Nothing would make me happier than to see Palin endorse someone like Cain.

However, we need to remember that Sarah is a member of the GOP in good standing. While she has broken ranks before, I do not think she would go against Romney with an endorsement of Cain.

I think she will wait until the nominee is clear.

136 posted on 10/06/2011 3:45:09 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: erlayman

I lost a job as a teacher because my position disappeared in 2008.

I got in a car, drove 1000 miles, conducted 14 interviews, got 3 offers, and chose one. I’ve been working there for 3 years even though 4 teachers were cut from the school.

I think that is Cain’s point.


137 posted on 10/06/2011 4:09:33 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Erik Latranyi; All
9 posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:37:28 PM by Erik Latranyi: “With the primaries getting earlier, it is good to see conservatives coalesce around a candidate. If we don’t, Romney will be our nominee.”

There's a lot of wisdom in this statement.

I'm not necessarily a Cain fan. There are things I like about him and things I don't. Many of the things I like about Cain are the things I liked about Romney back in the 2008 campaign, before I learned of Romney's abortion flip-flopping, which for me is a “no-go, no way.” Cain's business background is a big plus.

Being able to vote for a successful black Republican businessman is a huge positive, and I don't mind saying that. We need a thousand more Herman Cains running for city, county, state, and federal office. The Democratic Party takes black votes for granted, and there is absolutely no good reason why conservative evangelical churchgoing blacks should be voting for a party that is destroying on weekdays what they're hearing preached on Sundays in their churches. (Yes, I know there are lots of liberal black churches; I'm talking about conservative evangelical black churches which should be part of the Christian conservative movement, but are not.)

I just wish Cain were running for a U.S. Senate seat or a governorship. The presidency is not an entry-level job. We've seen the consequences of electing President Barack Obama who had minimal government experience, and if Cain gets the nomination, it is imperative that he surround himself with people who understand not only how business works but also how government works.

There are important differences, the biggest one being that many things about government are slow by design. A private business has every right to make its own decisions and answers to nobody but its customers and stockholders. A government answers to its constituents, and that sometimes requires very different approaches from what works in business.

A President Cain will have some serious rocky roads to overcome. However, given our current government crisis, maybe what we need is a businessman with a background of fixing near-bankrupt businesses.

138 posted on 10/06/2011 4:30:29 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: LibsRJerks; All
38 posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 3:37:18 PM by LibsRJerks: “I do believe the man is genuine, smart, charasmatic, and just naturally a good guy. It’s what we need — a good guy who loves the country. (with a few extra talents thrown in). When’s the last time we had that in a president??”

The obvious answer is Ronald Reagan... but you probably already knew that before you asked! ;-)

Politicians do not usually succeed by being both nice and charismatic, but salesmen require those skills to succeed. Yes, politicians can be charismatic, but it's usually a charisma born out of rallying the troops against a hated enemy — being both charismatic and nice is unusual in a politician.

Time will tell whether Cain is selling a quality product (i.e., himself), just as time eventually told that Ronald Reagan wasn't just a great actor but a great communicator who communicated effectively because he firmly believed in his message and his message was the right message for America.

I'm not sold on Cain, at least not yet, but I'm hopeful.

139 posted on 10/06/2011 4:39:32 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: justsaynomore

Please add me to the Cain list.


140 posted on 10/06/2011 4:53:34 AM PDT by Gvl_M3
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