Outward Bound New Yorkers (Where most of them went in the past 10 years)

Empire Center for New York State Policy ^ | 10/03/2011 | E.J. McMahon and Robert Scardamalia

[cuban leaf]

So, the bumper sticker is right:

Florida - Where America goes to die.

[freedumb2003]

I would love to see the same analysis for California. After being born and led my entire life there I am moving to Texas.

I note a lot of outflow to PA — a non-income tax state. People will vote with their feet and wallets, no matter how NY and CA would like to believe otherwise.

[from occupied ga]

which other states gained the most at New York’s expense

I wouldn't call getting a load of New Yorkers a gain. These are the people who vote for liberal politicians, think liberal, act liberal, approve of liberal policies, and then wonder why their taxes go through the roof and their incomes go into the toilet. They sh!t where they ate and then moved on to ruin new places like Florida, Georgia, and North Carolina. (You can't ruin New Jersey and Pennsylvania)

[from occupied ga]

which other states gained the most at New York’s expense

I wouldn't call getting a load of New Yorkers a gain. These are the people who vote for liberal politicians, think liberal, act liberal, approve of liberal policies, and then wonder why their taxes go through the roof and their incomes go into the toilet. They sh!t where they ate and then moved on to ruin new places like Florida, Georgia, and North Carolina. (You can't ruin New Jersey and Pennsylvania)

[Lazlo in PA]

Yeah. We got a ton of New Yorkers here in Eastern PA over the last ten years. Long Island accents and stupid liberal mentality. Luckily they don’t blend in so you can pick ‘em out easily.

[cripplecreek]

The way I look at the outflow from Michigan is that its providing an opportunity to fix things. Sure we have one less congressional seat overall but we picked up two GOP seats as well as seized rock solid control of state government. Even John Conyers is going to be forced into a fight to keep his seat.

Cutting some 30,000 college kids off foodstamps and imposing limits on welfare will drive quite a few more out of the state as well.

Those of us with “sticktoitiveness” will be ready to make some money as things get better.

[kabar]

Florida—God’s waiting room

[Buckeye McFrog]

I note a lot of outflow to PA — a non-income tax state.

Not true. PA does have a State Income Tax, currently pegged at around 3%. Our advantage though is that our State Constitution prohibits making it "progressive". You pay the same flat tax whether you make $10,000 per year or $30 million. Where you get screwed here is by your local yocals.

[detective]

It would be nice to see this by age and income. Most young people leave New York because there are few jobs and opportunities for achievement. Many people leave when they retire to find an area with a better quality of life.

The study doesn't include Porto Ricans, Dominicans and others from outside the 50 states. That would also be interesting to see.

[freedumb2003]

Someone had the kindness to correct me and the class to do it privately.

PA does have an income tax (I wonder where I got the idea they didn’t? Probably because I worked there and they didn’t tax me for some reason).

It is pretty low — 3.07% flat from what I could find using mt Google-fu.

I stand corrected and I earned something today!!

[SeekAndFind]

New York State is NOT losing population though.

Immigrants still come to New York ( a lot from Asia ) to replace those who have left.

For those who want to know how Taiwan, Hongkong or Korea looks like, just come to Flushing, NY in the borroagh of Queens. You ‘ll be hard pressed to find a Caucasian there.

[manc]

one good came out of the slower economy. Less yankee liberals moved south and to my state. Now if only those same yankee liberals would move back to NY, MA, RI, PA, CT, NJ, MD, ME, VT,OH

[freedumb2003]

>>Most young people leave New York because there are few jobs and opportunities for achievement. Many people leave when they retire to find an area with a better quality of life.<<

One of the charts appeared to list by net income inflow/outflow and, if I read it right, there has been a $36 Billion dollar outflow — so it looks like the income is leaving as well, not just the job seekers.

[manc]

nail on head

The slow economy stopped many of them coming down here now I hope those who bought houses down here and are yankee liberals move back up north to the hell hole they first created due to their ignorant voting ways

[GodBlessUSA]

I live in NY. I am NOT a liberal with a Long Island accent. I'm sure many who are moving out of NY are like my family. Conservatives or republicans wanting to get out of the never ending taxes and liberal rat policies. Suffolk County, Long Island was a republican strong hold when I grew up. My family and I are contemplating moving. We worry from hearing stories from others about how some people in other states treat New Yorkers poorly. Narrow-minded would do this.

There are a lot of liberal states out there with Conservatives and Republicans living in them. Not just NY. To put everyone in NY in the category as liberal is so very wrong!

[freedumb2003]

I corrected myself upthread :)

[SeekAndFind]

What makes PA different from NY is this -— PA’s greenies are not as strong as those in NY.

Your natural gas industry is flourishing with thousands upon thousands of jobs being added due to allowing hydrofracking on your side of the Marcellus Shale.

We here in NY on the other hand are still waiting for approval. We’ve studied the issue to death and found it to be quite safe ( heck PA, already proved it ). But guess what is being proposed? You guessed it — ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY!!

[Safetgiver]

I note a lot of outflow to PA — a non-income tax state....Ahem. You are wrong about that. We have an income tax and the highest gas tax, etc. you can find. And yes, we have a “non-income” tax. If you and your wife (or kids or your goat) have a shared checking account, savings account or IRA, the state takes 30% shortly after they bury her, you or kids.

[Iron Munro]

Registered communists, socialists, and democrats moving from the northeast to other states should not be allowed to vote in state elections for at least ten years, if ever. It’s the same thing as allowing people with a communicable disease to relocate and infect the host population.

/sarcasm off