Posted on 10/03/2011 9:46:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I don’t want to get into a “who is more conservative” contest with you because I don’t know exactly what you advocate. However, in all areas you mention, I am not in favor of any of them. I would like to see the abolition of the income tax and a return to funding the Federal government through its traditional method, Tariffs. I also think the Federal government should greatly reduce its overall size and scope thereby greatly reducing its spending in most areas, with the possible exception of national defense. So you can draw your own opinions from that. As for my opinion about government, I think it should return to its constitutional foundation of limited powers exercised. So, perhaps, you and I are closer in politics than you think, maybe not.
My “colors” such as they are red, white, and blue. There are right-thinking patriots both north and south of the Mason Dixon line.
Then why did you say
"this forum from Yankee land, is likely to be as conservative, if not more conservative than you"That kind of directly contradicts your first statement. However, moving on:
There are right-thinking patriots both north and south of the Mason Dixon line.
No doubt, but totally irrelevant to the discussion. The fact is that New York is successfully exporting liberal politics to the rest of the country by swamping local votes with government worshiping wannabe slaves fleeing the mess that they themselves created - like a project "free state" in reverse. Now intelligent people realize correlation is a necessary but not sufficient condition for proving causation. Nevertheless the numbers are compelling evidence that the jackboot lickers escaping the consequences of their voting habits are like plague carriers, infecting other areas of the country with statist politicians by taking their voting habits with them. Moving from one location to another doesn't change one's political views.
In addition, New Yorkers through their representatives such as Schumer and McCarthy are fanatic gun control activists, and believe me that they actually represent their constituency on this one. Most of the people who I talked to when I lived in Moscow on the Hudson feared and hated guns and thought anyone who wanted to own them was insane. This was the prevalent attitude upstate too with the exception of a few hunters I knew who unanimously thought that their shotguns or rifles were OK, but that semi-autos were bad and should be banned (because you don't hunt with them.)
And I don't want to get into the whole tax thng. They complained about the taxes, but then were horrified by any politician who wanted to "cut services." And I quote, "You can't let the children starve."
As I said, please feel free to post my couple of numbers on the liberal forums and see what they say. I don't have the time or the inclination to do so.
FRiend from occupied Ga,
No doubt there is much truth to what you say about many liberals leaving their polluted nests and bringing their destructive mentality with them. These leftists can’t seem to connect the dots when it comes to their political leanings and the inevitable consequences of said leanings. However, much of the exodus from these areas consists of conservatives who have had enough and just want freedom elsewhere. This is a very sizable group which I think you too easily dismiss. Nevertheless, I think your generalization of New York politics is fairly accurate and that’s why I left that state long ago.
I probably should have qualified my statement a bit about comparative conservative values and said something like “many Yankees are just as conservative, if not more conservative than many southerners that I have met.” My intent was not to impugn your conservative credentials, but to emphasize the fact that a large group of these northerners are people you or I would be happy to have as neighbors (well, you might take some persuading...LOL). It’s not northern migration that the south should fear, but liberal migration and that is an important distinction to make. I make common cause with people who share my views no matter where they previously lived, including people from occupied Georgia.
I never said that they were all liberal, just that most were. In the case of NY, 62.36%. That allows for a 37.64% mixture of moderates and conservatives.
I feel the same. The country desperately needs it.
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