Posted on 09/19/2011 2:33:20 PM PDT by CA Conservative
Link only to RCP - cannot link to USA Today. This poll was conducted after the last debate. Last poll by USA Today/Gallup in early August (before Perry announced) showed Romney 24, Perry 17, Bachmann 13. A Gallup-only pull in mid-August, after Perry announced, showed Perry 29, Romney 17 and Bachmann 10. So it looks like Perry has continued to gain support, but Romney is also picking up support since late August, which has narrowed the gap. The RCP average shows the Perry lead down to 8.6%, which is a drop of about 3 points. So it does appear that the debate hurt him some, but it does not appear that Bachmann or Santorum benefited - it looks like Romney did.
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I agree that perhaps it will be structured differently and in a fairer way. I do hope at least one question is asked to Bachmann about her lying “mental retardation” statement. She needs to be held acountable.
Also hoping that some questions will be directed to Romney to force him to have to defend his policies. He is allowed to skate through all the debates.
Your free to vote for whomever you want in the primaries. I'm sorry if your preferred candidate(s) are failing miserably. If however your favorite candidate doesn't win the nomination, and you sulk off and vote 3rd party in the general election, you are simply flushing your vote down the crapper, making a statement no one will pay any attention to, and will be otherwise helping Hussein win another term. Up to you, despite Obama's efforts, it's still mostly a free country.
Isn’t Megyn Kelly asking questions too? She’s no marshmallow of a questioner when she doesn’t want to be.
There are certainly a group of very stupid folks around basing their choice on debates....Mittens could win all the debates...when you look at his record it should make everyone throw up...look at Perry's record and you see HOPE OF AMERICA. As Reagan's ad...MORNING IN AMERICA again.
Bachmann should drop out and crawl back under her rock.
Like I said:
FR has turned into a bastion of medocracy. Its been overrun with moderate and liberal republicans.
At the end of the day if true conservatives vote for either of these chumps hope is lost for this country.
The first sentence is most important here. Folks like you shoved John McCain down our throats and now your doing the same with more rinos. That’s OK, the liberal wing of the republican party is alienating the base and when we branch out to our own party your democrat lite party will wither away over time or rightly so takes its place merging with the evil party.
Huh, it should be obvious that there are a lot of partisans tied to boosting particular politicians, and/or to hating on particular politicians. Sometimes with reason (Romney is too much of a mush to be trusted on anything) but sometimes illogically.
One might accuse Bachmann of making a mountain out of a molehill with respect to possible side effects of Gardasil, but it technically isn’t a lie. She sounds to be jealous of American freedoms, which is a good thing.
Starting to look like 2008 all over again with Romney in second and another illegal alien butt boy like McCain in front.
Meanwhile the real conservatives are trailing—the RINO elite are setting us up again.
Still early though,many things can still happen and this far out polls truly are for strippers and cross country skiers.
Yes, I get it, your mad that most people on FR apparently don't agree with you. If you think FR is so bad, stop crying and go create your own forum for your new 3rd party that no one will ever care about.
and when we branch out to our own party
LOL, man just stop it. Stop your crying. Your not going to branch out into squat. People have been throwing temper tantrums and saying this for over 100 years and it isn't going to happen. Your chance to make a difference is within the Republican primaries. If you don't get your way, insist on taking your ball and going home and want to waste your vote on some silly 3rd party that has no chance to win, well, more power to ya I suppose. Just know that your making not a bit of difference other than to help Democrats win elections. 3rd party voting is just plain dumb.
If Sarah Palin decides to pop in, that will certainly shake up the picture. It would become a Palin/Perry contest with Romney in the dust.
Perry picking up support.
Romney too.
The rest fading back.
Hopefully Perry continues his steady gains and Romney finds a wall to hit.
Stop whining.
I hated John McCain but thre were only two reasonable choices in that primary. Hunter who polled in low single digits as Cain does now and Thompson. Who for some reason I still will never understand never was embraced by the social right leading them to chase after Huckabee dooming his chance of going anywhere.
Perry;s got the social right and southern vote on lock as a Christian and Governor of Texas. He has a strong fiscal record and dares to even admit to wanting to address social security and medicare. If this candidate isn’t good enough for you that doesn’t make you a true conservative. It either makes you a partisan or a losing candidate, a dreamer constantly chasing the unattainable, or a strong border advocate. I;m with those on the last one but given the alternative is Romney I can swallow the one sore position I have with him.
You have 3 choces. Romney, Perry or Obama. Don’t like it? Then go run for office yourself.
You're wrong about everything.
On Sept 19 2007, Giuliani led the RCP average with 27.5, Thompson was second at 23.1, followed by McCain 15.6, Romney 9.5, Huckabee 4.3.
Btw, Perry doesn't support blanket amnesty of any kind.
Perhaps it would be better to hold Merck accountable for the ruination of the lives of young girls who have been damaged from this horrible vaccine.
Michele Bachmann hasn’t ruined anyone’s life, Merck has.
If all this is to support a crappy candidate like Perry, your time and enthusiasm is wasted.
An awful lot of people are awfully slow learners.
Let’s hope this next debate provides more of an opportunity to see more issues, strong points, bad points, etc. of ALL the candidates. We’ve had too much “wagging the dog” with the Gardasil issue only. A Republican party nomination process should not focus on just one issue like that, and now, not only have we had little discovered about all the OTHER issues - stands and records - but that “wagging the dog” trick has taken our eyes off Romneycare and has greatly marginalized Perry’s ability to fight against Obamacare in the general election should he so win the Republican nomination.
That said, I hope Perry is able to pick his debate skills up a little more too though. He has seemed uncomfortable with the situation - could be his recent spinal surgery and pain - but I also think he is still warming up to debates (while Romney has... what five years or so of experience with them). His second debate was somewhat of an improvement over the first, so here’s hoping he’s a quick enough learner that this debate will be even better for him.
I have to emphasize once more though, that we really need to get off the one-trick-pony issue here and start looking at all issues and all candidates more, be it Perry or Romney or Newt or Cain or Rick Santorum or whoever our candidates may be.
No, I forgot nothing. One of those 3 will be President. You effectively are voting or not voting for one of those three.
Now don’t misunderstand me. I was very much in the “No way in Hell” camp in ‘08 aginst McCain. I relented when he picked Palin. But I defended those who didn’t vote up and down this board when they were being bashed for skipping that vote. McCain and Obama both made me sick. You don’t have to vote for these three but these are the 3 with the only realistic chance of being President next and you don’t get the cop out of dipping your hands in a bowl and washing the decision away.
I was perfectly willing to live with my decision in ‘08 because I was gambling he’d be a miserable failure and that would work to conservatism’s advantage. Only Palin on the ticket pulled me out of that. But I don’t really see any advantage to conservatismn by letting Obama or Romney win here. All we’ll hear in that aftermath is that tackling entitlement spending is the third and “right wing extremists” (their meme) can’t win and lift the establishment’s power.
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