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Major Plane Crash at Reno Air Races Many dead [NTSB Update: 11 Dead; Over 50 Injured]]
16 Sep 2011 | vanity

Posted on 09/16/2011 5:15:07 PM PDT by PilotDave

A P-51 crashed into a vip area at the reno air races about 25. Initial reports indicate many deaths.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: aviation; reno; renoairraces
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To: George from New England

Hum, I can’t imagine why, I just saw footage of this on television news.


61 posted on 09/16/2011 5:56:31 PM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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To: PilotDave
I would not be surprised they cancel the rest of the Reno Air Races this year due to this unfortunate accident. This crash kind of reminds me of that Su-27 crash at Sknyliv airfield nine years ago, where the crash debris killed 77 people and injured 543....
62 posted on 09/16/2011 5:57:01 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Marty

Thanks Marty.


63 posted on 09/16/2011 5:57:01 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: PilotDave

Several years ago our American Legion Post participated in the committal service for a WW-II P-48 Fighter Pilot whose remains had been recovered in Germany and later identified.

At the service were several WW-II Veterans, including one who used to be a P-48 Jockey until he transferred to P-51s.

I remember him telling me later at the reception that the P-51 was the first fighter that could pull enough Gs in a turn to black the pilot out, and it was a significant problem until they developed pressure suits to counteract the effect of the G-forces. It was also so fast that it was extremely difficult to bail out of. Not long after the war, they got to work on the ejection seat.
AFAIK they probably started research on it while the P-51 was still in service.

Apparently they lost a fair number of pilots to these emerging phenomenon.

The Mustang was popular and sexy, but it was apparently not considered to be a particularly safe airplane to fly.

I wonder if the pilot pulled enough Gs coming around that turn to black him out? At those speeds and altitude, even a momentary lapse of consciousness would be (and may have been) fatal.

From the video clip it appeared as if he came in at about an 80 degree angle at around 300mph (rough guesstimate).

If it was a blackout, he never woke up in this World.


64 posted on 09/16/2011 5:58:35 PM PDT by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: Allegra

Flashback post by Dashing Dasher from 2006. A plane crash.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1609133/posts


65 posted on 09/16/2011 5:59:56 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Allegra

She’s ok.


66 posted on 09/16/2011 6:01:11 PM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: George from New England

There have been a lot of head scratching removals from the breaking sidebar. This is one of the most egregious I’ve ever seen. If this isn’t breaking news, nothing is.


67 posted on 09/16/2011 6:02:16 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: JRios1968

12 dead.

FOXNEWS LA


68 posted on 09/16/2011 6:02:29 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: NormsRevenge

I know this man. RIP to all involved. Prayers for all the witnesses.


69 posted on 09/16/2011 6:02:31 PM PDT by Rapunzel (Run SARAH run)
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To: chris37

hannity saying 12 dead


70 posted on 09/16/2011 6:04:32 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: BullDog108

Looked like it maybe was a black out from excessive g-force on the turn, the P51 went stright in at an angle of about 70 degrees, no trailing smoke, no parts of the aircraft falling away before impact,appeared too be at full throttle.Unless the control systems went bonkers, I would guess the pilot blacked out.

Horrible accident, the V-12 engine block went cartwheeling away.You can see it in the video.


71 posted on 09/16/2011 6:04:44 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Rapunzel

FAA inspectors were at the race observing the air show.

-KTLA News


72 posted on 09/16/2011 6:05:16 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Rapunzel

Perhaps I should have been clear. The man is the pilot. I’m in shock. Very experienced pilot.


73 posted on 09/16/2011 6:06:48 PM PDT by Rapunzel (Run SARAH run)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
There have been a lot of head scratching removals from the breaking sidebar. This is one of the most egregious I’ve ever seen. If this isn’t breaking news, nothing is.

I agree. Yet, "Tom Ridge to Endorse Jon Huntsman" which never had any business of being in breaking, is still there. Bizarre.

74 posted on 09/16/2011 6:07:30 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81; PilotDave

Likely pulled because no link was included and its listed as a vanity. I’ve posted in Breaking before like that but immediately notify the mods via “report abuse” that I will be putting up a link as soon as I find one.


75 posted on 09/16/2011 6:10:31 PM PDT by CedarDave (Hurricane Irene -- cleanup will give the economy the stimulus Obama wants (US taxpayers pay))
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To: Beaten Valve

He must have blacked out.


76 posted on 09/16/2011 6:10:58 PM PDT by Rapunzel (Run SARAH run)
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To: Rapunzel

Sorry to hear of the death of your friend and those on the ground. Prayers up people!

FRegards,
PrairieDawg


77 posted on 09/16/2011 6:13:30 PM PDT by PrairieDawg (Who is John Galt? And who is Barack Obama?)
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To: Rapunzel

As to the trauma of the witnesses - I know this sounds sort of cold, but if you go to a bull fight don’t be surprised if you see someone get gored and some blood shed here and there.

When you get automobiles, motorcycles, or airplanes moving at high speed in close proximity to one another loaded with highly volatile fuel while surrounded by crowds of spectators, the potential for sudden, violent and catastrophic accidents will always be significant.

It has long been known that the public has sort of a morbid fascination with these high-risk activities.

As much as I hate to speculate, there were probably at least a few individuals there who finally got to see what they secretly wanted to witness all along.

If you chat frankly with most Race Drivers, Pilots, and Bull Fighters I think you’ll find that they know it, too.


78 posted on 09/16/2011 6:14:22 PM PDT by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Seems like somebody would ping you, wacko!


79 posted on 09/16/2011 6:14:35 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: George from New England; Admin Moderator

Maybe if we ask the mod this thread could be moved to Breaking News. It may have to do with no link in the original post. Just a guess.


80 posted on 09/16/2011 6:14:48 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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