Posted on 08/02/2011 2:19:47 PM PDT by Hojczyk
It seems to be the new talking point: The deal is a victory for conservatives not because of what it does (which is, not much!), but because it supposedly represents a change in the direction of the debate. Once, Washington discussed what to grow. Now, Washington discusses what to cut. Even former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has echoed the theme — but with qualifications. The Wall Street Journal Washington Wire reports:
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said Monday’s House vote to lift the debt ceiling was a victory for the tea party, proving that conservative activists had shifted the conversation in Washington.
“We shall take this victory and make sure our politicians in office today are learning from this victory,” Ms. Palin said Monday night on Fox News, where she is a paid contributor. “It’s not a 100% pure genuine victory. We just handed the most liberal president, I believe, in U.S. history a $2.4 billion debt increase.” …
Ms. Palin didn’t fully embrace the deal, saying she had plenty of problems with the compromise between the White House and congressional leaders, including Republican House Speaker John Boehner. In the past, the former governor said she was not convinced America would face a default if lawmakers did not raise the debt ceiling by Aug. 2.
Meanwhile, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), one of the founders of the Tea Party Caucus in Congress (along with GOP presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann), says the deal can’t possibly be touted as a win.
“The Tea Party is not calling this a victory,” Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said today on Fox News. “I’m certainly not.”
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
Thanks for clearing that up, I agree with that as evidenced by my previous post.
What I don't understand is the deliberate attempts to bash Palin here. While I do not share the enthusiasm that many do here for her I am certainly not a detractor nor would I deliberately bash her (as many here seem bent on doing). In fact, I have defended her several time here from unfair and misguided attacks.
We have a Country to save, we best get with it and do it or else it is all moot and for naught.
Bashing and eating our own simply serve no purpose.
Sadly I think you are correct
It is quite amazing, Again you are wrong. Palin was responding to Greta V’s statement that it was a victory for the TEA party. Palin used the word victory in response to Greta and then Palin qualified that Greta’s “victory” was not a victory in her mind!
Give it up!
I like both Bachmann and Palin so I won’t go against either. Palin is the best choice for president, she has the proper credentials. Bachmann should run again for congress and use her exposure as a presidential candidate to get into a leadership position in the House. That’s where her strength lies.
Palin does not see it as a victory. Csense explains it so that even people with PDS can understand:
“... She wasn’t referring to the substance of the bill as a victory, she was merely agreeing with Greta, when Greta said: The Tea Party had an enormous victory because they did change the discussion here in Washington, and it is a little bit like trying to change the direction of an aircraft carrier, it’s not easy
Sarah then went on to explain why the content isn’t a victory and summarized by saying: Yes this is a victory because tea party patriots did shift the debate...
She’s not abrogating her principles and what she said was exactly correct.”
The above stolen without permission from csense. - Thanks, free me
Bumpiddy bump bump bump....To the top!
If Bachmann had been in Boehner's position do you think she could have carried this through with better results?
You Jim Robinson? Yes, quite amazing. Don’t forget to mention what a great victory YOU think this bill is.
Palin does not see it as a victory. Csense explains it so that even people with PDS can understand:
“... She wasn’t referring to the substance of the bill as a victory, she was merely agreeing with Greta, when Greta said: The Tea Party had an enormous victory because they did change the discussion here in Washington, and it is a little bit like trying to change the direction of an aircraft carrier, it’s not easy
Sarah then went on to explain why the content isn’t a victory and summarized by saying: Yes this is a victory because tea party patriots did shift the debate...
She’s not abrogating her principles and what she said was exactly correct.”
The above stolen without permission from csense. - Thanks, free me
Yes, the “Tea Party” got their defense cuts.... Hooray!!
She used the word victory for the "actions" of the bill well after Greta used it...Palin used it in the context of the Tea Party first and then in the context of the bill itself.
Many people seem to be in denial.
I agree on both points.
Actually, the deal would have been much worse without the Tea Party.
She said basically the same thing as you.
You Jim Robinson? = You mean Jim Robinson
More lies:
Palin does not see it as a victory. Csense explains it so that even people with PDS can understand:
“... She wasn’t referring to the substance of the bill as a victory, she was merely agreeing with Greta, when Greta said: The Tea Party had an enormous victory because they did change the discussion here in Washington, and it is a little bit like trying to change the direction of an aircraft carrier, it’s not easy
Sarah then went on to explain why the content isn’t a victory and summarized by saying: Yes this is a victory because tea party patriots did shift the debate...
She’s not abrogating her principles and what she said was exactly correct.”
The above stolen without permission from csense. - Thanks, free me
She used the word "victory" also in the context of the actions Congress took (although she was displeased by aspects of it so not 100% victory), and not just the Tea Party.
You seem to be the one being disingenuous.
With the power shown with this fight now we should have the rest of there agenda in an uproar.....no more rushed bills of several thousand pages unread....no card check....amnesty.....or additional controversial funding.
You conveniently left out where Palin later said the actions taken this week were a victory, though not 100%.
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