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White House stokes debt-ceiling crisis (No to new plan)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/white-house-stokes-debt-ceiling-crisis/2011/03/2 ^ | 7/25 | rubin

Posted on 07/25/2011 6:07:48 AM PDT by RummyChick

A Republican aide e-mails me: “The Speaker, Sen. Reid and Sen. McConnell all agreed on the general framework of a two-part plan. A short-term increase (with cuts greater than the increase), combined with a committee to find long-term savings before the rest of the increase would be considered. Sen. Reid took the bipartisan plan to the White House and the President said no.”

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To: RummyChick

They all need fired. With the exception of a few our government is a huge ponzi scheme. Until they do away with ObamaCare and the Clinton/Dodd democratic amendments on the CRAct which destroyed our economy as well as stop all the insane spending; we won’t recover.


81 posted on 07/25/2011 7:37:14 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Abathar

They’d get it through horsetrading and carefully worded articles. Which they, being the current enforcers, would decide the meaning of.

All you have to do is go look at all the dancing they’ve done around the Second Amendment - and continue to do.


82 posted on 07/25/2011 7:38:54 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: redgolum

Hitler had those mental issues.


83 posted on 07/25/2011 7:43:25 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: SueRae

I’d say it’s more Hannibal with his elephants crossing the Pyranees. And thinking he could do it, too.


84 posted on 07/25/2011 7:43:37 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Abathar
Can’t they put together enough moderate Democrat governors and legislatures to call for a Constitutional Convention and let the 50 states decide?

Are you out of your mind? If you think for one minute that our creditors don't already have a "new constitution" drafted, one that robs this nation of any future in return for an ephemeral spending fix, I've got news for you.

85 posted on 07/25/2011 7:53:00 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: RummyChick
If this is accurate the president is playing with fire...

Another case of "Spontaneous Human Combustion."

86 posted on 07/25/2011 7:59:03 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: redgolum
If he has narcissistic disorder, this is going to end very badly.

I've been pondering what might happen if he weren't to pay the debt service, and I'm not sure it's all bad.

The national debt exists largely to fund liberalism. It is a FEDERAL GOVERNMENT problem. Couldn't the fact that no one would be willing to buy further federal government debt have a silver lining?

Not paying the debt service of 23 billion with revenues of $200 billion would be clear grounds for impeachment of Obama.

Everything we on the right want to accomplish-- smaller government, the elimination of federal government departments like Commerce, Education, Agriculture, the EPA, etc., would be placed, by necessity, on the table. For the private sector, what could be bad about mass federal government layoffs? What federal government bureacrats do results in a net loss to the private sector economy, they add nothing to the bottom line.

I'm not sure that what goes on in the private sector is indelibly linked to whether the feds can borrow money for their programs or not.

Maybe this would be the equivalent of the donkey hitting itself on the head with the proverbial two-by-four?

87 posted on 07/25/2011 7:59:13 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: BobP
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88 posted on 07/25/2011 8:03:31 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: GlockThe Vote

He won’t say yes to anything that doesn’t extend past the 2012 elections.


89 posted on 07/25/2011 8:04:37 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Obama seems in a self destructive mode right now.

The boy king has been in destruction mode since Jan 21, 2009. THE DESTRUCTION OF THE CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM IN AMERICA, and replaced with a Europe like Socialism. He is right on plan and knows EXACTLY what he is doing.
90 posted on 07/25/2011 8:05:31 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Principled

The democrats are towing the progressive party line.They are siding with insanity and sitting back putting their chosen one before this country. No one is truly speaking up to the true insanity it is. The Alinsky politics of the commercial ad of Ryan pushing granny in a wheelchair off a cliff did not work so they are desperate. They are hell bent on turning America into a dictatorship of liberals and fail like Europe and Canada’s health Care. Someone needs to step up and call for Obam’s head to be examined but they can’t because it exposes and may end their very own progressive ideals and insanity.


91 posted on 07/25/2011 8:08:17 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: RummyChick
Our Traitors caved but Obama says No. WTH???

This is merely part III of the Obama Destroy America Plan.

Part One - With massive business and banking regulations, make it impossible for businesses to grow and hire new workers.

Part Two - Make government as big as possible and drive this country into debt so large, that it will be impossible to recover.

Part Three - after create a debt problem so large so as not to be able to recover, cut defense spending as a proposed necessary solution. Afterall, he wants to destroy the military, but can only do so by de-funding it. That can only be done with the consent of the governed under the theory that we have no other choice because of mounting debt.

Anyone that thinks Obama's intentions are anything other than to do as much damage to this country as possible, ask yourself this. If, as President, you wanted to destroy this country, what Obama policies would you change?

[crickets chirping] - I thought so...

92 posted on 07/25/2011 8:09:16 AM PDT by Go Gordon (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: wayoverontheright

“This is a BIG political blunder. Obama now owns a default if it happens (I’m betting he’ll pay the debt service no matter what) and a credit downgrade.”

Absolutely correct.

People need to stop bashing Boehner for a sec and look at the bigger picture.
1. Tax hikes are not on the table.
2. Obama looks likea disagreeable craven fool if this bill is put on his desk. He will have to sign after saying no.
3. We fight to make the Reid plan more acceptable with real cuts. There is a simple way - insist on letting GOP specify 50% of the cuts.
4. More spending cuts to come in FY 2012 fight if the cut arent enough.


93 posted on 07/25/2011 8:10:19 AM PDT by WOSG (Cut the spending!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

EXACTLY!!!! I’ll post this again and again:

“The president’s worried about his next election, but my God, shouldn’t we be worried about the country?” Boehner said. “I’m not worried about the next election. I told the president months ago: Forget about the next election!”

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/173143-boehner-obama-worried-about-his-next-election


94 posted on 07/25/2011 8:10:41 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: txrangerette

They tried to raise it, and failed.

NO INCREASE


95 posted on 07/25/2011 8:11:37 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: mojitojoe
I say one term for sure, nobody could be stupid enough to vote for that moron twice.
Oh, how I wish that were true. On Saturday I saw a car whose backside was absolutely plastered with Obama 2012 stickers. It was a Prius (of course).
96 posted on 07/25/2011 8:11:43 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: RummyChick

This is all about ENTITLEMENTS.

Period.

Americans have been conditioned to expect "their" direct deposit.

Look - if you are a disabled military veteran, you are truly deserving.

If your kid has autism, a heart murmur, or sleep apnea - and has been declared "disabled" for the last 10 years collecting SSI for you, then shame on you. That is NOT what this country is about.

If you are an illegal collecting SSI, AFDC, Section 8 Housing, and Medicaid - then Obama and Reid care more about you than they do for an FBI agent risking his life out in the field or a VA doctor trying to rebuild some guy's face that was blown apart in Afghanistan.

Good is now Evil, and Evil is now Good. That is the Democrat way.

97 posted on 07/25/2011 8:13:18 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: sam_paine

Spin or not, Obama’s poll #s have taken a big hit in the past month or so.

Not a coincidence. This has been a disaster for him, his move to the center has been a flop, his road t orelection is class warfare and finger-pointing, that is the mark of a guy about to get beat.

“He’s just batting at us like a cat with a mouse. He can kill him now or later. Later is more fun.”
Ya think? Not really. GOP passed a plan, and we will likely pass another plan on Weds or Thurs. We HAVE an answer. If Obama says no, then its on him.


98 posted on 07/25/2011 8:13:21 AM PDT by WOSG (Cut the spending!)
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To: toolman1401
When the people figure out that they can do without a lot of the government, things are starting to take a turn in the right direction.

This is the RATS worst nightmare scenario - Government union workers being laid off, and citizens realizing they can do without their "public service".
99 posted on 07/25/2011 8:15:42 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: SkyPilot
If you are an illegal collecting SSI, AFDC, Section 8 Housing, and Medicaid - then Obama and Reid care more about you than they do for an FBI agent risking his life out in the field or a VA doctor trying to rebuild some guy's face that was blown apart in Afghanistan.

If you are an able bodied citizen and have been collecting food stamps, section 8 housing, welfare, free telephone, unemployment, free car, free health insurance or free tuition for more than a year then go out and get a job.

100 posted on 07/25/2011 8:18:55 AM PDT by ladyjane
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