Skip to comments.NY Legislature legalizes gay marriage
Posted on 06/24/2011 8:06:12 PM PDT by PROCON
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - Gay marriage will become legal in New York state after the Republican-led state Senate voted to approve it. Advocates are calling it a historic step as New York stands to become the sixth but by far the largest state to legalize same-sex marriage.
Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo lobbied hard for the bill and has promised to sign it.
The Senate vote is viewed as a major gain in an effort to allow gay marriage nationally.
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And you shouldn’t sit idly by, either. If people do wrong they should apologize, it’s the civilized way to behave.
Thank you, I will keep that in mind.
It would be disgusting if you got banned.
Could you post a better link to that case, because this is all I found for it. Unless it is the same case.
Does the Supreme Court issue rulings that only affect the parties laid out in a suit, or does every ruling affect the nation as a whole?
A contract as I understand it is a service or good for appropriate compensation. As I’m not married, is a marriage license just that, a license to be married, or is it a contract entered into with legal advice? Remember Clinton with his meaning of “is” BS? It depends on what the meaning of license is.
Except I believe that abortion is murder, federal firearms laws are unconstitutional, and anchor babies are around only because the 14th Amendment didn’t have a sunset clause, or specific wording to the extent that it’s only intended for the children of then-freed slaves.
Do you have links to Federalist Papers supporting anti-sodomy laws? Or if you can recall them from your mind, did they specifically state if they supported them as federal laws, or state laws?
Every ruling they make sets a precedent for all lower courts in all cases.
A contract as I understand it is a service or good for appropriate compensation. As Im not married, is a marriage license just that, a license to be married, or is it a contract entered into with legal advice?
A marriage is a contract and that contract is valid and must be recognized in all 50 states. The defense of marriage act was a federal law which gives each state the right to not recognize that marriage, but undoubtedly that law will be declared unconstitutional, if it hasn't been already.
Remember Clinton with his meaning of is BS? It depends on what the meaning of license is.
Obviously you are not a lawyer. I am. Your arguments on this thread are specious. You are either pimping for the homosexual agenda, or you are just plain ignorant of the facts and the law.
I’ll go with ignorant of the law, with a preference for starting with a clean slate.
Saying I support something when I’ve repeatedly said I don’t is a Liberal tactic. See what Liberals say about Conservatives concerning immigration. I’m for legal immigration, against illegal immigration, and I feel the 14th Amendment wasn’t specific enough.
The only interest in law I have is Constitutional law, and Obama made a joke of it. I have no interest in law concerning the “justice system,” because it is itself a joke today.
Well take some time and educate yourself. We are facing a moral crisis in the Country and this decision by the NY legislature will have national implications. It will also have spiritual ramifications.
Robert Bork wrote a book called "Slouching towards Gomorrah".
Well we have reached that destination.
If, after this fiasco, God fails to judge this nation (or at least New York), then he will need to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.
Even though Wikipedia is at best a suspect source for legal information, it looks to me like the Supreme Court affirmed a law, retracted, then stated the original law to be guidelines.
Looks like the Supreme Court preempted everybody. I wasn’t alive when whichever president decided it was okay for a Supreme Court justice to practice activism.
Putting a minute into thinking about it, almost sounds as if the only contractual part of a marriage license is a social contract, that may or may not be signed, affirming the history of both parties not currently being married at the time of signing the marriage license; the license sounds like a state allowing two people to marry.
If you can clarify anything after sleeping, that’s fine with me. I wouldn’t know where to begin to look for legal information on this subject.
Don’t get banned.
Is it possible the mod meant that you were being “used” by the trolls to further their agenda?
Personally, I think the light of day on the freepmails is the proper remedy and then a statement by JR that he will ban those who send such freepmails that are reported to him.
That doesn’t mean, however, that a mod in a hurry couldn’t arrive at the remedy used in your case and at the words used in your case.
I meant it very seriously when I noted that NY seems determined to get nuked . . . for starters . . .
One could conceivably add . . . along with San Francisco & much of California and lots of the Western side of Washington State and plenty of Oregon.
Folks seem to forget the historical record in Scripture . . . God pays attention to geography and those persistently and outrageously rebelling against Him in particular geographies.
Thx for the ping.
As hideous and deadly as homosexuality is . . .
I think it is Jeremiah in the Bible who declares that the biggest/worst sin of Soddom and Gomorrah was . . .
It was pride that lead to the other junk.
And THAT’S something all mortals can identify with.
We are to judge rightly . . . and judging sin is one of the critical things we must judge rightly.
Nevertheless, we must be very cautious in our attitudes and motives as well as goals for such judgments.
The measure, criteria according to which we judge others will be the standard by which we are judged. Who’s ready for THAT?
Haughty self-righteous judgment is spiritually hazardous—as POTENTIALLY hazardous as putting tab A in slot Z.
Ideally, judgment by believers is to be redemptive—preferably to the individual(s) involved—but at least to the society.
Scripture calls us foremost to judge ourselves to avoid being judged more harshly and more finally, ultimately by God.
Our land is increasingly in the cross-hairs of God’s judgment on at least 12 huge counts:
1. Utter rampant, institutionalized rebellion against God in a list of ways from the top institutions and designated leaders and stars in society on down.
2. Hostility to Israel. He meant what He said when HE SAID He would bless those who blessed Israel and curse those who cursed Israel.
3. Support of satanic Islam—particularly while trashing and censoring Christianity from public life.
6. glorifying all manner of sensuality, idolatry, hedonism, . . . worshiping the creature instead of The
7. Calling good evil and evil good.
8. Murder and mayhem on a massive scale out of greed and power-mongering. Witness the deliberately supported drug oriented sub-culture.
9. Massive and literally devilish corruption on a massive scale.
10. Raging support rushing to overtly manifest the satanic global government at all costs as soon as possible.
11. Massive deadly population reduction schemes by said global government folks firmly in place and beginning to operate or on the brink of implementation in devastating ways.
12. Fathers neglecting their children and children in rebellion against their fathers. Remember the Scripture that in the last days God will send a remedy of turning the hearts of the fathers back to their children and the hearts of the children back to their fathers else He would smite the land with a curse.
that is the stupidest thing I ever read.
If God is all knowing and all just...he will punish the evil and not the good...jerks like Jerry Falwell and Pat Roberson push that bilge-water.
Each Supreme Court is binding on the the Nation as a whole. the District Court rulingd effect only that particular District. The Supreme Court only rules on the Constitutionality of the matter before them. [To wit:] Is it[the matter before them] Constitutional or UnConstitutional?
Point being, with 37 on the books, it should be easy to get a few more.
But we’re not arguing for that “right” to expand the pool of those we can marry. We’re not asking for polygamy, or marriages within bloodlines, or special age inclusion.
My point is that the homosexuals ARE asking for special rights. We’re not asking for them. The law was already set around a certain set of restrictions, which we all abide. They are not asking for EQUAL rights. They are asking for SPECIAL rights.
I did not post the private e-mail of an actual Freeper. I would NEVER violate that trust. What I did was to post the unsolicited correspondence from an enemy Troll along with my response. The guy signed up the same day and then sent out a mass Freep mail to everyone who was defending traditional marriage on this thread.
The Admin Moderator deleted my post giving a rather naive reason that posting the intercepted correspondence from our political enemies somehow feeds their agenda. Frankly I cannot accept thar reasoning as valid.
I got another Freep mail from another enemy combatant who signed in the same day and I posted that freepmail as a warning to others.
At that point the Admin Moderator accused me if “actively promoting the homosexual agenda” apparently because, despite my decade long posting history, I pissed him off because I ignored his arbitrary decision to delete the Troll’s e-mail.
Well, I’m sorry but I can’t just sit still and allow anyone to insult my reputation. The mod did not act in haste. He or she acted deliberately and with malice aforethought. He later realized his folly and deleted his own post, but he did not apologize to either me or PROCON who was also falsely so accused.
I will defer to your pastoral guidance in this matter. I am tempted to repost the intercepted letters from the troll along with my response if the Admin Moderator fails to apologize and if I am breaking some stupid forum rule and it gets me suspended or banned, then I guess I’ll have to live with that. If you think I should just let it go, then I will.
I know you are busy today.
Thanks for always being there ffor us when we need this kind of pastoral guidance.
Try this site, it's quite handy.
I'm curious -- your signup date is June 25.
The same day you post this?
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