Posted on 06/24/2011 7:55:44 PM PDT by kindred
For several years now, I have listened to Dr. Michael Savages radio show, The Savage Nation. He is a great thinker in the ways of politics, and his insight, his wit and his general knowledge are a treasure. His talent with words is great, and I love his fiery, truthful eruptions, and I also bust out laughing at his quick humor. I love his voice, and I can see that Dr. Savage has a tender heart.
"However, as a Christian, there are many times I listen, and I cringe when Dr. Savage gets on a theological discussion"
However, as a Christian, there are many times I listen, and I cringe when Dr. Savage gets on a theological discussion, as he did on Tuesday, and it is those times that I wish I could speak to Dr. Savage, even for just a few moments, although I know from his harsh reaction and out-of-hand dismissal of some of the noble attempts by his past Christian callers, that he probably does not want to hear what I would say (Isa. 1:3, 45:23, John 3:19-21, Rom. 1:22, 2 Tim. 3:7).
On Tuesday, he was talking about New York Congressman Anthony Weiner and the stupidly self-imposed bind the adulterous Weiner finds himself in. The discussion turned to character and morality, then to theology. So, Dr. Savage spent quite a bit of time with two callers in particular, both of whom proudly claimed to be atheists. Of course, when I hear people like those guys speak, the Word of God in Psalm 14 always flashes in my mind,
The fool has said in his heart, there is no God
The callers put out the usual talking points of the godless, anti-Christian left. They stated that since there is evil in the world, then that simply must mean that there cannot be an omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient God (Rom. 3). Dr. Savage likes to try to walk a line between belief and unbelief, but in reality, that line does not exist. Either you take God at His Word, or you dont. The Lord is not offering a buffet that you can pick and choose which parts of His Word that you accept and which parts you reject. God wrote the Book, and God makes the rules, not us (Psalm 19:7, 119:160, 138:2, John 17:17, 2 Peter 3:16).
God is indeed all-knowing, all-powerful and all-present, and the evil in the world does not disprove these facts. In the beginning, when God created all including man which He did in six days (Gen. 1), just as He said (why would He mince words, as if He, who made all we see, were not able to do it in six days?)he designed man with free will, not as an automaton who had no choice but to love Him (Deut. 30:19, Josh. 24:15, John 1:12, 3:16-17).
Since He is all-knowing and not bound by time, God knew from before the dawn of time that man would reject Him. His plan for our salvation through His Son Jesus was in place long before the serpent beguiled Eve, and Adam knowingly disobeyed God (Gen. 22:7-8, Rev. 13:8).
"The whole of creation will continue to suffer until the Lord comes back to set things right when the fullness of his plan is accomplished"
What happened when Adam sinned was that the curse of sin and death was introduced into the world (Rom. 5:12-21). Before Adam sinned, he was not designed to die, or be sick, or be stuck by thorns, or to eat his animal friends. All that changed in a gut-wrenching, heartbreaking instant. Since that terrible moment, all of creation has suffered horribly under the curse of sin and death with all manner of sickness and disease and evil of every kind (Rom. 8:20-23). The whole of creation will continue to suffer until the Lord comes back to set things right when the fullness of his plan is accomplished (Isa. 11:1-12, 65:25, Dan. 7:9-14, 26-28, Micah 4:1-4, Hab. 2:14, Mal. 3-4).
Now, the tricky part of any discussion about God is the fact that He is a supernatural Being, and even though we most certainly can know Him, our very limited human minds cannot fully grasp the awesome aspect of Him, at this time. In fact, the Bible plainly tells us that without the Spirit of God touching our hearts and minds, we will not even be able to understand the meaning of the Word of God (John 3:3-17, 16:8-14). It is a mystery, but it is the truth, and people who have great pride and faith in their own intellect have a very hard time with the concept of a God Who is too big to fully get their mind around (Gen. 11:1-6, Psalm 14: 1-3, Rom. 1:16-32, 2 Tim. 3:7, Heb. 4:2).
We believe in God by faith, because although we have not seen the Lord physically, we know He is, and we trust Him for our ultimate salvation and all that we have here on Earth. The Bible says that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God (in Romans 10:17). What does that mean? In a nutshell, it means that when we truly seek Him, God opens our hearts to receive His Spirit and our minds to hear His instruction. When He does that, then were able to understand His revealed Wordthe Bibleand our faith in Him is born (John 1:12, 3:3-7, 1 Peter 1:23).
"The Bible says that, " faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God"
Now, back to Dr. Savage and the atheists discussions. Dr. Savage has certain standard arguments against Gods omnipotence. He sometimes uses the argument that if God were all-powerful, then He would not allow a busload of children from a Christian church to go off a cliff and be killed and maimed.
First of all, we must remember that because of our sin, we have invited all sorts of badness into this world, and Satan is ever at work looking for ways to steal, kill and destroy mankind and Gods creation (2 Cor. 2:11, Eph 2:1-2, 1 Peter 5:8). Although God is all-powerful, He does not always stop bad things from happening, but that does not mean God killed a bunch of children or that He was powerless to stop itby no means (Luke 13:1-5)!
At this time, we do not have the answers to why God sometimes allows bad things to happen to nice people, but one day we will understand it all. On the other hand, we have no way of knowing how many bad things God did put a stop to that never happened to us. One day we will know that, too. Ultimately the answers to those questions have to do with Gods purposes (Rev. 4:11).
Another refrain Dr. Savage and atheists like to latch onto is that the belief in God and belief in science are mutually exclusive. That could not be further from the truth. Think about it. God is the Author of the entire universe and everything in it. In itself, that is a concept which is much, much larger than what we can get our minds around (Psalm 19:1-7, Rom. 1:18-25, Rev. 4:11).
"The fact is that without God, there is no science"
The fact is that without God, there is no science. Now, Im not talking about science of the politically motivated kindyou knowthe kind that is funded and propelled by the diabolical communists in our world and meant to enslave us, as in the false science that attempts to prove the lie of anthropogenic global warming (Gen. 2:4, Psalm 104:24, Prov. 3:19, John 1:1-3, Heb 1:1-3).
No. Im talking about true sciencethe study of Gods creation for the betterment of mankind and all of nature, the fruits of which studies have given us great things, such as we see in the field of medicine, and these discoveries are gifts of God. I have often said that of all the people in the world who should plainly see God, it is the scientist who studies Gods creation. The awesome detail and intricacy of all that is in the world and the heavens above are boundless, and Gods hand is evident throughout it all. God is like a master artist, and if you know anything about art, you know that you can often recognize an artists work by the common traits in the pieces he creates. The same is true of Gods handiwork (Psalm 19:1-7, 97:6).
Another myth of unbelievers is to claim that belief in God equates to ignorance (1 Cor. 1:18-31). That is a lie from the pit of hell. Throughout Gods Word, He tells us to gain knowledge, to be wise, to be ready to give an answer for why we believe what we believe. God is all about knowledgeHis pure and true knowledge, which is not the false wisdom of the worldand He warns us that lack of His knowledge is a deadly thing (Prov. 21:30, 1 Cor. 1:20, 3:19, James 3:15).
But you see, the reason for that myth goes to the heart of the true, eternal struggle. The real enemies of mankind are spiritual enemies (Job 1-2, 1 Chron. 21:1, 2 Cor. 4:3-4, Eph. 2:1-2, 6:12, Rev. 16:13-14, 20:1-3). There are only two forces at work in the world: the forces of God and the forces of Satan. Satan is the eternally damned enemy of God and all of Gods creation. Satan is currently the god of this world, and although he has no authority over Gods hand, he is still a very powerful being.
"He has created legions of lying doctrines, false religions, and countless deceptions, all aimed at stealing the souls of mankind from salvation by God" . If you are an enemy of the truth, which is Gods Word, how do you combat that truth? With a multitude of lies, of course. Satan is the chief of liars. He has created legions of lying doctrines, false religions, and countless deceptions, all aimed at stealing the souls of mankind from salvation by God (Lev. 17:7, 1 Tim. 4:1). Because Satan has flooded the world with lies, people claim that truth does not existthat no one can know or claim to know absolute truthanother hellish lie (John 3:19-21, 8:44, 16:7-13, 2 Cor. 4:3-4, Eph. 2:1-2, 1 John 5:19).
One of the biggest and most deadly lies of hell is that there are many ways to God, many ways to salvation (Isa. 43:11, 45:21, Hos. 13;4, Matt. 7:13-29). That is another thing Dr. Savage has said, and he soundly rejects the work of Christ. Dr. Savage has his wheel theory, which places God as the hub and the spokes of the wheel, as the worlds religions, all leading to the hub. Here is a critical and a tough place, because the refrain of the fallen world is to screech and wail at anyone who claims there is only one way to God (Gen. 11, 1 Sam. 8:5-8, John 19;15, Rev. 9:20-21, 17:12-14).
"That is another thing Dr. Savage has said, and he soundly rejects the work of Christ"
But, if you really think about it, and you look at all the worlds religions, how can they all be true? If nothing else, it is mathematically impossible. With the many conflicting doctrines among the worlds religions, there comes a point where we must realize that truth does exist, and its actually a rare thing to see truth in this world. It may be tough for some people to accept, but most of the world religions are false. Thats just the way it isagainI didnt write the book; I didnt make the rulesGod did.
There is one truly despised belief system and two truly despised groups of people in the world: Christianity and Christians and Jews. When you think about Gods eternal enemy, Satan, you must know that Satan despises the things of God, especially Gods truth and Gods chosen people, of whom Christians are an adopted part.
"Do you ever notice how the world does not bother much at all with maligning anyone but Christians and Jews?"
Do you ever notice how the world does not bother much at all with maligning anyone but Christians and Jews? It is because Satan abhors Gods truth and Gods people, and that hellish, worldly hatred for Gods true chosen ones is a supernatural hatred born in the heart of Satan and passed like a virus into the hearts of people under Satans swaythe haters of Gods truth.
What is the bottom line here? The bottom line is that the truth can be known, and in the end the truth will stand, whether we accept it or not. The fact is that Jesus is indeed the Son of God, and Jesus and God are one (Psalm 2:7, 110:1, Isa. 9:6-7, John 1;1-3, 10:30, Rev. 21:22). Jesus came to save the world, to provide a bridge of the impossible divide between God and man, although the Bible clearly says that most people in the world will not choose the narrow path of salvation through Christ, but instead will choose the broad and easy way to destruction and eternal separation from God (Isa. 43:11, Hos. 13:4, Matt. 7:13-14, John 3:16-17).
As I wrote last year in my column, Meet Your Maker,
The Gospelthe Good Newsis really quite simple, and at the same time, its depths are infinite. Contained in the Bible is Gods message to mankind, the path to salvation through his only begotten Son, Jesus. There is no other way to reach God, except through belief in Jesus as our savior. As Jesus said in John 14:6:
I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me
Pretty exclusive? You better believe it is!
Dr. Savage is far from alone in his rejection of the exclusive path to Godthe only paththrough Jesus, as most of the world thinks the same way. My prayer for Dr. Savage has always been for his salvation, that God would open his eyes and his mind to be able to see God and begin to understand the fathomless depths of Gods living Word and His amazing love for us and the astounding peace that this world cannot give, but that God gives freely to those who love Him (Psalm 1, Isa. 9:6, 48:18, John 8:32,36, Eph. 2:12-22, 2 John 1:3).
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
Men like Savage cannot humble themselves to the level needed.
I feel the same way. He is definitely a man searching for the Truth but like so many, he will let his intellect keep him from true wisdom.
BTW, Michael Savage’s actual last name is Weiner, too.
I am not his judge, I will let God sort it out. I do very much enjoy the way he speaks from his heart. May God make the world safe for those who do not suffer fools easily and state their opinions bluntly. He is one of the few public figures who speaks plainly about Islam without bowing to political correctness.
Michael Savage is as much a conservative as this posting was about Michael Savage (which is to say, it was not).
“Vanity!”, my favorite sin!”, Lucifer
What's the saying? Judge Ye Not .. Lest Ye Be Judged?
I’m good with my judgement.
Now that you have brought that fairly well known piece of information to us .. I have to ask .. So What?
Thank you God .. My Bad!
Well done.
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I wanted to stop reading right there. Savage is an obnoxious know it all with a voice that make fingernails on a chalk board sound pleasant. I can't turn the radio off or switch stations fast enough at 6pm..
As for the rest of the article, I don't listen to talk radio for theology, if that is what I'm in the mood for I have a choice of Christian radio stations.
Yes I podcast Michael Savage every night he is the air. I have been listening to him since the Spring of 2007. He is by far and away the best in the business. The most intelligent too. I am very thankful that God has put this man on Earth.
Yes it is true Michael is not a biblical absolutest. However, you are incorrect on another point you made. Michael says that he believes that science and religion DO go together and are NOT mutually exclusive. Science tells us how and religion tells us why.
Nobody said Savage should go to Hell.
Other than that you'd better be using the judgement ability God gave you with your every breath. That's what separates humans from animals.
Give him time.....Life is a long process and many people do not see the light until they have enough time to reflect on it. He has been extremely busy and hard working and the type of show he does leaves little “free time” to look deeply into faith, and, obviously, he hasn’t discovered the profound comfort it gives, nor has he discovered the strength that humility brings. Don’t give up on him....pray for him. With his wisdom, I think he will eventually come around. He gets close to the truth at times.....much more so than most people.
Doesn’t seem like you have read the Bible if you think that the true purpose of this Earth and why it was created is not in the Bible.
We are here to worship God. And most importantly, by our actions. By being a light in a dark world. By speaking for the Truth.
Great stories are fascinating. May we always remember the Holy Trinity; Father, Son and Holy Ghost. This is the perfect God. CS Lewis makes good reading. Esp. “Last Battle”, where in he demonstrated how dwarfs are for dwarfs. Ain’t nobody who can change that. As for Smith, I’ve had visions too.
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