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N.C. Forced Sterilization Victims Voice Grief, Pain
FoxNews.com ^ | 6/23/2011

Posted on 06/23/2011 7:17:26 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue

There is nothing the state of North Carolina can do, Elaine Riddick says, to make up for forcing her to be sterilized when she was 14 years old.

"They cut me open like I was a hog," the woman who now lives in Atlanta said at a Wednesday hearing in Raleigh held by a panel working to determine compensation for thousands of victims of the state's defunct eugenics program. "My heart bleeds every single day. I'm crushed. What can they do for me?"

Riddick, 57, was one of 13 people who spoke at the meeting, and one of nearly 3,000 living victims of the program, which was shuttered in 1977, three years after the last sterilization was performed. The public hearing is part of a process unprecedented not just in North Carolina, but nationally. About a half dozen other states have joined North Carolina in apologizing for past eugenics programs, but none of the others have put together a plan to compensate victims of involuntary sterilization.

"It's hard for me to accept or understand or even try to figure out why these kinds of atrocious acts could be carried out in this country," said Gov. Beverly Perdue, who appointed the Eugenics Task Force that convened Wednesday's hearing.

Any plan that involves financial compensation will be a hard sell, though, in a year when the state budget includes deep cuts to numerous programs. The General Assembly passed the $19.7 billion spending plan over Perdue's veto. Bills in the legislature aimed at providing specific financial and medical compensation for victims have stalled.

"We've made some baby steps, but as we get closer to the big one, there's some pushback," said state Rep. Larry Womble, D-Forsyth, the lawmaker who's been most active on the issue.

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To: I Buried My Guns

FR is a pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty site. We do not support government forcing anything on anyone, much less forced sterilization. You can either keep this NAZI-like crap to yourself or get the hell off of FR! Choice is yours.


81 posted on 06/23/2011 11:43:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: wagglebee
"...they should be sequestered away in separate classes..."

It has been widely accepted that putting retarded kids into regular clases destroys the learning opportunities of the regular children and does nothing to improve the education of the retarded children. It is nothing more than PC and social engineering, and it is an utter failure. It has been proven that retarded children learn more when put into classes specifically tailored to their needs.

My children are not an experiment, and I resent them losing their educational opportunities and being used as a tool to make people feel better about themselves (in this case it's the parents of retarded children, and liberal). Retarded children have no business in classrooms with normal children. It is a lose-lose scenario. I actually worked in these types of classrooms for a few years before I got a real job, and witnessed this lunacy firthand.

So yeah, when I say I do not want retarded children drooling over and spreading their feces and disease to regular children, that was merely a short synopsis of the above.

I refuse to come to conclusions using my emotions. I try to rely on my intellect solely.

82 posted on 06/23/2011 11:43:59 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (You bring the traitor. I'll bring the rope.)
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To: metmom

and quit paying their babysitters....and quit feeding their kids in school...etc etc


83 posted on 06/23/2011 11:45:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: pnh102; I Buried My Guns
Would you issue exemptions from your forced sterilization program to disabled vets with traumatic brain injuries, or should they be treated like all the other "retards?" Would Trig Palin be allowed an exemption, even though he is exactly the type person you're targeting?

These are not rhetorical questions. I'd like an honest answer, if you're capable of such.

84 posted on 06/23/2011 11:45:40 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Sacajaweau; metmom
and quit paying their babysitters....and quit feeding their kids in school

Let's go whole hog: in addition to getting the government out of the Caring For The Poor business, we should get the government out of the Teaching The Children business.

Government does an astonishingly bad job of both those activities.

85 posted on 06/23/2011 11:48:31 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you Jim. Some of the comments can be very hurtful to people caring for disabled family members. God bless you.


86 posted on 06/23/2011 11:50:22 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: I Buried My Guns; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
It has been widely accepted that putting retarded kids into regular clases destroys the learning opportunities of the regular children and does nothing to improve the education of the retarded children. It is nothing more than PC and social engineering, and it is an utter failure. It has been proven that retarded children learn more when put into classes specifically tailored to their needs.

Take your kids out of public schools if you don't like it, education is not a right.

I refuse to come to conclusions using my emotions. I try to rely on my intellect solely.

So, the statement below is something you consider to be intellectual?

Few will argue that we do not have enough stupid people in America today. I say we have plenty, and it is an affront to me that they are considered my equal under the law and our moral code.

Where EXACTLY do you go to find people who consider that an intellectually valid viewpoint?

87 posted on 06/23/2011 11:51:09 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Darwin Central?


88 posted on 06/23/2011 11:53:53 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: wagglebee

Wow... that’s exactly the mindset that the elitist leftists have.

I’ve heard a lefty declare that 60% of the population can’t and shouldn’t make their own decisions and need someone to make decisions for them.

I simply answered “Gee, with the numbers of incompetent folks being so high, how do you figure you’re not one of them?”


89 posted on 06/23/2011 11:54:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: I Buried My Guns
People were sterilized because they were “classified” as being retarded for things like speaking their own language rather then English when they entered Kindergarten. In other words, they were classified in a way that the law would allow them to be sterilized, they for the most part were NOT in any way retarded or even dimwitted.

Anyone who sits and spews justification for what was done based on obvious total ignorance on this subject, in spite of the materials easily available, is either a troll or themselves so stupid that they're obviously begging to themselves be sterilized along with the sterilization of whatever offspring they may already have.

90 posted on 06/23/2011 11:55:17 AM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: BykrBayb

Darwinism feeds right into elitism (as some are more “evolved” than others),

so it’s no wonder leftists embrace it as the basis of their worldview.


91 posted on 06/23/2011 11:55:49 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: I Buried My Guns; wagglebee; Jim Robinson
So yeah, when I say I do not want retarded children drooling over and spreading their feces and disease to regular children, that was merely a short synopsis of the above.

Well I don't want my children around people with a false sense of their own perfection and value. Egotists usually inflate their own self-worth. Laughingly so.

92 posted on 06/23/2011 11:56:02 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: wagglebee; I Buried My Guns
Where EXACTLY do you go to find people who consider that an intellectually valid viewpoint?

His house.

93 posted on 06/23/2011 11:56:55 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: MrB
50% of the population is below average ...

;'}

94 posted on 06/23/2011 11:58:28 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: I Buried My Guns; wagglebee; Jim Robinson; darkwing104; Old Sarge; 50mm
Your views are egregiously wrongheaded, reprehensible and contra the pro-life charter of this forum.

Viking Kittie Alert!



Lamh Foistenach Abu!
95 posted on 06/23/2011 12:00:57 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: DJ MacWoW; I Buried My Guns

This is an amazing thread.

In his world, who would get to decide where the “Stupid enough to be sterilized” line is? And then of course there are many other “undesirables” besides mere lack of intellect...

Which begs the question “Why just sterilize them? They’re still they’re messing up my planet”.


96 posted on 06/23/2011 12:01:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: ArrogantBustard

That’s terrible! Something must be done!

Send more money to the NEA!


97 posted on 06/23/2011 12:01:23 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

The irony is that they fall below their own artificial threshold for human rights. If their policies are ever enacted and followed according to their specifications, they’ll be among the first to be sterilized, euthanized and harvested.


98 posted on 06/23/2011 12:03:23 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: pnh102; wagglebee; Jim Robinson
Please explain to me where someone choosing to be sterilized as a condition of accepting help from the government is morally equivalent to murdering a person.

You do realize that some military get paid so little that their families get public assistance, right? Or are you one of the stupid people that you're complaining about?

99 posted on 06/23/2011 12:04:27 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: little jeremiah

One has to wonder where the complainers place on an IQ test.


100 posted on 06/23/2011 12:05:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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